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Man I hear you dude. When I get off and pct I feel like garbage for at least a month plus. I loose weight and just feel depressed and shitty. Hang in there tho because it’s only temporary...but as @BodyTechPharma says, there are a lot of other sources out there if you want to try. Heck one just replied to you lol.

There are plenty of other sources out there my friend. Feeling slightly down due to the lower T levels is VERY normal post cycle, thats why people become impatient and jump back on (not the best idea). I'm not too sure about the side effects you were receiving, could have been a reaction to the preparation could have been your technique... there are many possibilities. Test flu is not typically associated with the injection itself, it comes from the fact that AAS weaken your immune system and you're more likely to actually develop some type of sickness.

I'm hoping the mods dont remove my post because if they do then that means they are backing some lab . I wonder if most people are aware of costs of raws in comparison to finished product. I think all us members should know some truth because understanding costs will help all of us understand motives and agendas by labs and boards. Lets take test e for example:1kg is $1000 canadian. Standard 2.5 grams per vial if dose is 250mg. That's what?$2.50 per vial,add cost of oils/ba/bb/labels/vial. Lets say $6 . Now you will see some labs bashing other labs saying ours is better and more potent because it costs $60,oh! the $40 one is bunk and fake because its so cheap. Most end users are now under the influence of a placebo effect because we have been brainwashed by the bigger people to believe that if something is cheap it has to be fake. The amount of shit talking i have seen through labs and boards amazes me. I would suggest members to go on the big boards,there are tons of raw suppliers,the cost is listed openly. Stop falling for the its more expensive its more potent BS spewed out by the board owners and the labs they control. All they are doing is ripping us off and brainwashing us because they take us as fools and most of us are. Do some homework,get street smart. If my post does not get removed,i will post a raw cost list so members have some insight. If it gets removed,then i guess this board is full of politics aswell

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Will do man. No plans to give it a go yet as I'm still in the early stages of the basic protocol, but if nothing in the next 3-4 months then I will for sure be looking into it.

Never tried HMG, but had success with HCG, after 10 years of trt, still popp'n em out. HCG might have done something strange though because me and my wife are white and my kids all came out half black..... All joking aside, if you try HMG let us know, im done with kids but know a lot of guys who are trying after years of hormone use (abuse lol), nice log btw, trying to do one myself and was checking out the other logs on here.

I have to agree with you. I've read quite a bit myself as I am hoping to make another miniature human sooner than later. HMG and HCG have been run together severe cases of infertility. Definitely an interesting subject that gives hope to many who have done some long term damage to their fertility. Good read on that study also!

Solid read @Corey5150 Really appreciate it. HMG is something I have seen tossed around in several protocols, but Im holding off a little bit do to it being hard to get and not cheap. I know Dave Palumbo lists it in his 'protocol". I guess I'm just hoping my balls are not that fried at this point. My last check did come back with improvements so....slow and steady.

I didn't see that you were seeing a fertility doctor in your post (or maybe I'm just blind lol), but if you're doing this yourself - here's an interesting study to look at, that looks at infertility from a variety of angles. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4708300/ Something that I've done a good amount of reading on, in cases of severe infertility has been hMG alongside hCG

8814, looks like you are taking a bit of hit in this thread man, so I wont comment on what you have laid out as its already been said. I do agree you BF is probably more up around 30% and your goal to drop BF is the correct direction, not that I agree with how you plan to get there. I do want to mention that the above posts are not people trying to be dicks but are genuine concern for your well being. That said, be safe man and take care of your body. Good luck on your journey and I will follow along.

Time for a long overdue update. I do apologize for the lack of as I was stuck on another business trip, add that in with being sick and my gym efforts were pretty rough last week. Back at it 100% as of Saturday with a 10km run just to see if I could still do it. Diet has been going well. Some macro data from yesterday attached. Finding it a little hard to get all the calories into the 8 hour IF window. Weight as of Sunday is 103.3kg. So not much movement as expected do to the above trip. Also note that I will be off TRT and all additional "suppressive" items until my wife is knocked up, so that present a challenge but as my goal now is a large drop in BF, I think it works out at least in theory. I do feel like I need to reassess my BF% level to a little higher than I though based on the photos. More into the high 20's low 30% range. I feel like I should have more muscle mass than I do but meh, life. This would make my target weight around 88kg to hit 15% BF which is my goal over the next 3-4 months. Possible? Maybe... I also got some blood work results back finally (1 month off TRT): TT: 3.59 ng/ml DHEA-S: 107.80 ug/dl E2: 21.00 pg/ml FSH: 5.46 mIU/ml LH: 3.84 mIU/ml TT4: 4.85 ug/dl TT3: 0.77 ng/ml TSH: 30.05 uIU/ml FT3: 3.54 pmol/l FT4: 9.47 pmol/l Note they did not test free test even though I asked for it. My total TT is low, but in "normal range" T4 and T3 are low, while free T3 seems low "normal". Looking forward to some T3 and RAD140 when I get back on TRT lol @MedicusResearch TSH is pretty high and E2 seems not too bad considering the clomid/HCG fertility therapy. I am looking forward to posting a nice improvement this coming Saturday/Sunday and maybe some photos. Hoping for around 1-1.5KG drop if not a little bit more. My blast that I have laid out is on hold until I get my BF% under control. The only note on that is I might consider adding in some MK677 at around 12.5mg a day into the blast plan. I have run it higher once before and the bloating was pretty rough, so I am curious to see what it does at a lower dose. That, and I am not a fan of higher doses anyways. Thanks for you the continued support from team NL.

So been slacking on posting updates. Just got busy getting back into swing of things, catching up on things at work that I ignored during prep etc. Sitting now at around 255lbs, and have been for the last couple weeks (if not more). Just started a cruise this week, which I will continue until at least the New Year. Post show, ran a bunch of stuff, trying to take advantage of a rebound. Did Test Prop daily at 50mg, MENT at 25mgs daily, then for about 4 weeks added 50mg NPP daily. Also for about 3 weeks tried IGF-LR3 at 50mcg pre workout. Was also doing 3IU gh, split into 1.5iu morning and 1.5iu pre bed. All BT supplements. Diet has been 'ok'. Stuck to a main clean off season diet, but added tons of extra sugary carbs. I'm like a crack head when it comes to sugar. But I have it under control now Overall not bad, condition could be better but pretty good considering I'm up 20lbs and was eating junk every night. It was my first time doing MENT and noticed a lot fuller look. Like it. With the IGF, I got crazy pumps. Not sure if it's just the extra food but at times they were ridiculous. For example, did a light warm up on a bike for 15 minutes before doing legs. Nothing crazy, like on level 5 to 7 out of 20. Got off and went to do lying leg curls, and couldn't do them because my quads felt like they were going to rip off, like they were contracting so hard, with so much blood from the bike, I couldn't bend my leg. Had to take an extra 15 to 20 minutes, to relax, and stretch them out before proceeding with my workout. So now the plan is around 200mg Test E per week, and GH 2iu pre bed. Ride this out for a bit and try to hang on to everything (hopefully continue to grow). Diet will be perfect now, since I can't rely on extra supps as a crutch. Pic of current condition attached, taken a couple days ago.

I don’t like getting stoned. But a single puff pre- or mid workout really seams to strengthen my mind muscle connection. Reaching failure I can go almost trance-like and push just a little further.