It seem more easy to think or believe what someone would say but at the end of the day you still can't believe what the say , i for once always lie about what i take and will never be open about it .
People always want to say the take less so the feel like the have good genetec wall the hole time there a couple extra shots here and there lol.
I will always say this talk don't mean shit and i only say on guy on the boards that look like a pro ifbb and that was (sniper) from ironlifter, if you say his pictures u would understand and his dose up there .
Am not saying some can't use low dose because some can, i had a friend that was low on money so his dose where very low and i mean very low and people couldn't understand how the fuck he was a monster , well he was very strong on insulin .