Bolton73

I've tried Liv.52 before while running orals, but it really didn't do much. I found Tudca to be far more effective for me. Its too bad, because you can get Liv.52 dirt cheap ordering it from India.

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Just reading this now. From near the beginning of this thread, the first thing that popped into my mind was "He'd be better off spending his money with @funnyman rather than getting more goodies. As I continued to read, I see thats exactly what some of the vets have been saying. Its great advice, brother! There's plenty of time for gear, but in my humble opinion, it doesn't have to be right now. I'd get a solid base where your bf has greatly decreased, then start looking to gear. Plus, the less bf you have, the easier it will be to observe the progress that your making, and to tweak things for better results. Just my opinion, brother. We're all pulling for you!

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Lol, nice intro. Welcome aboard !

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I stopped deadlifts now, and my lower back is in much better condition due to this. Also, with upright rows, I rarely do them - but if I do, i find a wider grip and lower weights/ higher reps don't bring me the same problems that they used to bring me. Having said that, i still avoid them for the most part. As i get older, i realize that my days of moving heavy weights are, for the most part, in my past. Nowadays, instead of looking for PBs, I try to train with a sense of longevity in mind. I guess I use the same attitude for gear as well ?

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