i remember the first time, i was hard at it in the gym for years and also a hard gainer. Watched some new guys come in skinny and fill out and pretty much surpass everything ive worked on for years and years in just a short time. Although i made decent gains and was happy These guys obviously had greater genetic potential than i, but i was super jealy and pretty much embarrassed when they started asking later how long i been at it for, so i took the plunge and went to the dark side shortly after lol.