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49 minutes ago, Livin'Large said:

Their colossus (cialis) is out of this world. I could hammer nails with my dick after popping 1/2 a tab lol

The Supermans are amazing. Tried them out the first night I received them. Girlfriend just got out of the shower and I said not sure how these pills gonna work. Literally within secs she looked and was like holy f. I could have hung the towels off it. Haha 

 

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36 minutes ago, BoosterJuice said:

The Supermans are amazing. Tried them out the first night I received them. Girlfriend just got out of the shower and I said not sure how these pills gonna work. Literally within secs she looked and was like holy f. I could have hung the towels off it. Haha 

 

Hahaha ok I'm gonna get some with my next order

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I have used BT before in 2017 and had a good experience with their Test 400.  I recently placed an order with them and started to use  their masteron prop.  I was able to make it through one bottle with very uncomfortable PIP.  Once I started using the second one I was getting flu symptoms and very bad PIP.  I got so bad that after a delt shot I could not even move my arm.  I went to the hospital after 2 days as I felt to ill and unable to use my left arm.  It took roughly a week for pain to subside and I was able to train again.  I have a bottle of test 400 that im too afraid to even try.  A buddy of mine used 4 bottles of the test 400 and didn't have a single issue but I will probably steer clear.  I won't be ordering again as it seems to risky given the reaction I had.  I have never had anything like this happen before in the last 10 years

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6 minutes ago, usernamebig said:

I have used BT before in 2017 and had a good experience with their Test 400.  I recently placed an order with them and started to use  their masteron prop.  I was able to make it through one bottle with very uncomfortable PIP.  Once I started using the second one I was getting flu symptoms and very bad PIP.  I got so bad that after a delt shot I could not even move my arm.  I went to the hospital after 2 days as I felt to ill and unable to use my left arm.  It took roughly a week for pain to subside and I was able to train again.  I have a bottle of test 400 that im too afraid to even try.  A buddy of mine used 4 bottles of the test 400 and didn't have a single issue but I will probably steer clear.  I won't be ordering again as it seems to risky given the reaction I had.  I have never had anything like this happen before in the last 10 years

Nice second post 

Did you contact the lab to report this? Did you try to sort it out? Did you bother reading the rules even? Or did you only make an account to come say negative stuff? 

Judging from your post count, I'll put money on it that you did none of the above. So thanks for coming out and go find a new board 

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9 minutes ago, usernamebig said:

I have used BT before in 2017 and had a good experience with their Test 400.  I recently placed an order with them and started to use  their masteron prop.  I was able to make it through one bottle with very uncomfortable PIP.  Once I started using the second one I was getting flu symptoms and very bad PIP.  I got so bad that after a delt shot I could not even move my arm.  I went to the hospital after 2 days as I felt to ill and unable to use my left arm.  It took roughly a week for pain to subside and I was able to train again.  I have a bottle of test 400 that im too afraid to even try.  A buddy of mine used 4 bottles of the test 400 and didn't have a single issue but I will probably steer clear.  I won't be ordering again as it seems to risky given the reaction I had.  I have never had anything like this happen before in the last 10 years

I hope you can prove it ? pictures? you at the hospital I want to see some documentation then I believe you. if not I ban your ass!

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Bit of a sketchy post there brother , if I was a betting man I’d say you were sent to discredit the lab . I also want to add just because this shit pisses me off , did you not read the 27 pages of positive reviews on BT products we all have used them without issue I can’t say it didn’t happen but highly unlikely. So this review doesn’t hold an ounce of credibility with us. Reviews are welcome on this board and never will be censored that’s what makes this board what it is. Just don’t come abuse it to discredit labs for certain others gain. 

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Lol Jesus Murphy.  First off I have been a member of this board for awhile as well as the previous board as well. I have been part of several for many years. I observe but rarely post, hence the low post count.  Hardly a newb but I can see where that perception comes from. 

I did not contact the rep immediately. How would he have rectified the issue? He can not assess my injury, more than likely will not refund my money and even if he offered to replace my product I wouldn’t use a company’s product that caused that much of an issue even if it was free. There are multiple credible labs so I decided I wouldn’t use this one again. I also did state that my friend had no issues with test E and that I had used it previously myself. I Still have one bottle of test e but am too reluctant to use it. 

Sorry jetpilot I did not document my hospital visit, lol. I would have never thought to do that. I have no reason to make that up. It seems ridiculous to ban someone based because I didn’t take pictures and document my visit to emergency. 

I’m not affiliated with any lab. I have product and empty vials from 3 or 4 different labs at home and I would be happy to take a pic of some of those when I’m at home tonight. Even an empty vial of the mast and the full vial I’m too scared to inject. It’s entirely possible that this was an individual reaction to that specific product, as I said I have used test e several years ago and I was fine. 27 pages of good reviews on one forum is great but it’s not that way on other review forums in case anyone wasn’t aware. One poor review does not make for a bad lab, which I never said biotech was. This was a specific incident that I should be shared. I also highly doubt any good lab would make accounts just to discredit other labs, there are a lot of users out there and plenty of business to go around. I will post pics of gear vials later if jetpilot hasn’t banned me for lack of hospital selfies. 

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25 minutes ago, usernamebig said:

Lol Jesus Murphy.  First off I have been a member of this board for awhile as well as the previous board as well. I have been part of several for many years. I observe but rarely post, hence the low post count.  Hardly a newb but I can see where that perception comes from. 

I did not contact the rep immediately. How would he have rectified the issue? He can not assess my injury, more than likely will not refund my money and even if he offered to replace my product I wouldn’t use a company’s product that caused that much of an issue even if it was free. There are multiple credible labs so I decided I wouldn’t use this one again. I also did state that my friend had no issues with test E and that I had used it previously myself. I Still have one bottle of test e but am too reluctant to use it. 

Sorry jetpilot I did not document my hospital visit, lol. I would have never thought to do that. I have no reason to make that up. It seems ridiculous to ban someone based because I didn’t take pictures and document my visit to emergency. 

I’m not affiliated with any lab. I have product and empty vials from 3 or 4 different labs at home and I would be happy to take a pic of some of those when I’m at home tonight. Even an empty vial of the mast and the full vial I’m too scared to inject. It’s entirely possible that this was an individual reaction to that specific product, as I said I have used test e several years ago and I was fine. 27 pages of good reviews on one forum is great but it’s not that way on other review forums in case anyone wasn’t aware. One poor review does not make for a bad lab, which I never said biotech was. This was a specific incident that I should be shared. I also highly doubt any good lab would make accounts just to discredit other labs, there are a lot of users out there and plenty of business to go around. I will post pics of gear vials later if jetpilot hasn’t banned me for lack of hospital selfies. 

I had some initial discomfort from the change over to MCT, but once I got use to it - it then easily became my favorite oil. I also wouldn't always compare PIP to credibility either - clearly you've never used delatestryl, straight from Shoppers Drug Mart and trust me it wasn't a walk in the park. 

I would normally recommend contacting the rep as you had no idea if he could have made amends or not. However, based on my own use of BT and I'm even currently using the Masteron you speak of, I'd put money on the fact your body isn't use to MCT. 

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My phone autocorrected. Yes this was my first MCT oil use, so yes that could be entirely true. It def flows way smoother than anything I have used. I have only used Mast E so the prop ester may be more painful as I have found this with deca and npp have noticeably different discomfort. 

I probably should have emailed the rep first but I explained why I did not feel it would be worth it. The worst thing that could have happened was nothing. So yes you guys are correct. I did email after you guys lit me up on here, which I knew he would have seen anyways as they are a sponsor but I felt it would at least show some integrity on my behalf. Anyways, I didn’t mean to stir the pot 

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@usernamebig I didn’t mean to come off like a dick but you have no idea how many people try to pull sketchy shit , looking for discounts and whatever else , it is proper protocol to contact the rep first to come up with a mutual solution or direct you as to why it happened ie to the virgin use of the new oil, BT is a great lab they treat us very well and the rep is nothing but aces. Again my apologies for coming off like a douche.

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The problem is rules were broken. Without rules, chaos reigns. I didn't sign up to work in a chaotic environment. 

Rules are clear that if you have an issue, email the rep. If they don't help you, then approach us.

What happened here is, he skipped all rules and came here to blast the lab. And on top of that, it's his second post. No one is going to take you seriously, not on any board. 

All types of reviews are permitted but rules must be followed. We are not cjm here and ban people who post negative reviews. 

But your approach is 100% incorrect and you broke rules. 

I have a hard time understanding why anyone who suffered some type of serious reaction after the first shot would not contact the lab. And then you went to a hospital and still didn't contact the lab? This is unheard of and strange. After the first reaction, I would of contacted the lab, let alone continue injecting and causing myself grief. 

So ya, your post comes across as a total fake because nothing adds up. 

Only reason I didn't ban because I was interested in seeing some type of proof but I see nothing. 

Gamechanger emailed us back saying that you only contacted him today, bt rep was never contacted through all this 

Also they said your order was end of April, which is nearly 5 months ago and that the issue has arisen now? 

I'm only using my logic here as a mod and this all doesn't add up or make any sense. 

Chapter closed 

 

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1 hour ago, Corey5150 said:

I had some initial discomfort from the change over to MCT, but once I got use to it - it then easily became my favorite oil. I also wouldn't always compare PIP to credibility either - clearly you've never used delatestryl, straight from Shoppers Drug Mart and trust me it wasn't a walk in the park. 

I would normally recommend contacting the rep as you had no idea if he could have made amends or not. However, based on my own use of BT and I'm even currently using the Masteron you speak of, I'd put money on the fact your body isn't use to MCT. 

Judging from his reply, he said he used mast e and it caused less or no discomfort, so that would rule out mct being the issue if one item didn't cause him an issue. 

But to be hospitalized after a vial which is 10 injections I'm assuming, if I was allergic to something, I would most likely be in the hospital right after the first injection, possibly the second. Because maybe after the first shot the body tried to fight it off. 

 

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Mast E was from different supplier, no mct oil. I had ordered in April and kept the mast for a prep that I didn’t end up doing so I tacked in onto an off season cycle of test and npp.  I explained why I didn’t email the rep. I went to emerg to check for abscess due to pain and flu symptoms. No abscess was found. He said likely an extreme inflammation of the delt. Where are these review rules With the order of operations? I reread the general rules so and didn’t see that so I was unaware. Northernlifters I felt like I explained my logic behind why I did or didn’t do the things I did in a long post. If I was a shill for another lab I wouldn’t have taken anytime to write these long posts. This is why I don’t post in forums, Facebook or anywhere else and just observe. Say one thing in what I perceive as relatively polite and people nail ya to a goddamn cross. 

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@KetoMuscles didn’t mean to come off like a schill maybe my approach was wrong , I would have said that if it was any lab , there is a proper protocol for dealing with issues like this , I apologize for my approach, I’ll work on it.

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1 hour ago, usernamebig said:

Mast E was from different supplier, no mct oil. I had ordered in April and kept the mast for a prep that I didn’t end up doing so I tacked in onto an off season cycle of test and npp.  I explained why I didn’t email the rep. I went to emerg to check for abscess due to pain and flu symptoms. No abscess was found. He said likely an extreme inflammation of the delt. Where are these review rules With the order of operations? I reread the general rules so and didn’t see that so I was unaware. Northernlifters I felt like I explained my logic behind why I did or didn’t do the things I did in a long post. If I was a shill for another lab I wouldn’t have taken anytime to write these long posts. This is why I don’t post in forums, Facebook or anywhere else and just observe. Say one thing in what I perceive as relatively polite and people nail ya to a goddamn cross. 

All I've said is, your logic made no sense. Who wouldn't report to a lab about discomfort and and pain or reaction from their items and then a hospitalization scenario. 

I've been a mod for 13 years on professional muscle and when I see someone with 2 posts who didn't even bothering emailing the rep but came straight on the board to make a negative post. We ban on spot because people like that clearly show they don't deserve to be on the board. 

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20 minutes ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:

@KetoMuscles didn’t mean to come off like a schill maybe my approach was wrong , I would have said that if it was any lab , there is a proper protocol for dealing with issues like this , I apologize for my approach, I’ll work on it.

There's nothing to apologize to him about. Your opinion was correct, as anyone would assume that someone with 2 posts is making negative feedback. 

Screw what others think, as long as you're following the basic rules, feel free to voice your opinion. 

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3 hours ago, Corey5150 said:

I had some initial discomfort from the change over to MCT, but once I got use to it - it then easily became my favorite oil. I also wouldn't always compare PIP to credibility either - clearly you've never used delatestryl, straight from Shoppers Drug Mart and trust me it wasn't a walk in the park. 

I would normally recommend contacting the rep as you had no idea if he could have made amends or not. However, based on my own use of BT and I'm even currently using the Masteron you speak of, I'd put money on the fact your body isn't use to MCT. 

Delatestryl is hands down my favourite test next to Organon sust. If I’m not mistaken,  delatystryl uses sesame oil as the carrier. I use it to break in virgin, or  muscles I haven’t pinned in a while.

Do you mean it gave you pip? Cause damn, I could put it in my tongue or eyeball lol. Seems everyone reacts differently.

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23 minutes ago, KetoMuscles said:

Balls!!

Why not make the title of the thread Good Reviews Only.  How can you say in one sentence we don't censor and then threaten to ban someone if they express anything negative?  That is censorship!  Feel free to voice your opinion but only if it matches ours?

No.  Bad reviews are acceptable, clearly, just not without at least a hint of credibility.   Perfectly understandable. 

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