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I’ll address this in a slight way, We are the lab that will bicker back and fourth, We spoke in a private email with @Liftreallyheavy he received a very honest response in a very timely manner , He did have issue with a vial of Tren , He was told if it was a bad batch which usually consists of min 200 vials per batch we would not have one complaint we would have many which we have not, we advised of bloodwork which would tell us more , So if is is switching to another brand the blood work would be void because there would be a mix of products we also told him we would talk further after. Just to shed some light on the situation.

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2 hours ago, BodyTechPharma said:

I’ll address this in a slight way, We are the lab that will bicker back and fourth, We spoke in a private email with @Liftreallyheavy he received a very honest response in a very timely manner , He did have issue with a vial of Tren , He was told if it was a bad batch which usually consists of min 200 vials per batch we would not have one complaint we would have many which we have not, we advised of bloodwork which would tell us more , So if is is switching to another brand the blood work would be void because there would be a mix of products we also told him we would talk further after. Just to shed some light on the situation.

Agree they gave a very timely response and agree bloods would be best and definitive way to solve this. Just not going into public at all at this time and avoiding as much contact as possible (lost a family member already to COVID-19). 

Is there a chance a vial was treated incorrectly? Is there a chance that one of the processes went wrong? I do not know. I’m not saying I know. All I’m saying is I know my body, I know how I feel on PED’s and unfortunately this product just didn’t stack up to other UGL’s iced used on my more than 20 cycles over 7 years. 

All I can concretely offer is my experience with the product compared to past cycles and past labs. 

Just so no one thinks I’m flaming I’d like to remind everyone, shipping, packaging and Test E were all 10/10. Just don’t recommend the Tren E unfortunately as I’ve never seen such poor results with such consistent diet and training (friendly reminder that I’m a retired professional athlete who’s worked with great nutritionists and trainers who’ve worked with many professional and Olympic athletes). I also have plenty of experience with PED’s and many brands.

I’m simply of the mindset that they could’ve kept my business if they were willing to figure out a more amicable situation. I do agree bloods are a fair and great idea, just not going into a doctors office during a pandemic which I think is also a fair point. 

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The problem with your theory is you don’t brew a vial at a time it’s made in litres so one batch can be 200 vials out of the same brew so there wouldn’t be one bad vial there would be 200 so I would have a minimum of say 150 complaints give or take the ones that didn’t say anything . Before you aired this publicly you didn’t take the steps asked of you and then speak to us after .

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14 hours ago, Liftreallyheavy said:

Agree they gave a very timely response and agree bloods would be best and definitive way to solve this. Just not going into public at all at this time and avoiding as much contact as possible (lost a family member already to COVID-19). 

Is there a chance a vial was treated incorrectly? Is there a chance that one of the processes went wrong? I do not know. I’m not saying I know. All I’m saying is I know my body, I know how I feel on PED’s and unfortunately this product just didn’t stack up to other UGL’s iced used on my more than 20 cycles over 7 years. 

All I can concretely offer is my experience with the product compared to past cycles and past labs. 

Just so no one thinks I’m flaming I’d like to remind everyone, shipping, packaging and Test E were all 10/10. Just don’t recommend the Tren E unfortunately as I’ve never seen such poor results with such consistent diet and training (friendly reminder that I’m a retired professional athlete who’s worked with great nutritionists and trainers who’ve worked with many professional and Olympic athletes). I also have plenty of experience with PED’s and many brands.

I’m simply of the mindset that they could’ve kept my business if they were willing to figure out a more amicable situation. I do agree bloods are a fair and great idea, just not going into a doctors office during a pandemic which I think is also a fair point. 

Should have went with the TNT 450... since you were running both test and tren. I can attest that it is very good. Hard to measure the actually “effectiveness”of tren even with blood work other than elevated estrogen and pictures/ subjective interpretation.  Speaking of which, were you running an ai at all? No mention of that. And at such a low dose of test you were probably bellow or at baseline normal ranges, then taking an exogenous hormone that will further suppress your bodies natural hormones. The balance was probably way off. Why run so much tren and not equal or more test? What were your goals here? Were you gauging the effectiveness of the tren based on side effects? 

the “tren cough” you a referring to is caused by the solvents used and not the actual hormone. I remember powder guy posted a really informative article on this (I miss those posts) about how the burning lung sensation that causes you to cough is a response to an additive that has not been properly broken down or has been broken down to much, burnt. Hence the dark colour of some tren, the same tren that probably makes you cough... same reason why some lesser quality test e oils can make you cough too. The only time I’ve ever coughed from tren is from a questionable source who claimed it was made from the cattle pellets. This stuff was the colour of rust. I coughed my brains out and the shit didn’t even work all that well, so go figure. 

you should post up some pics so we can better understand your assessment on the effectiveness of these products! 


cheers! 

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15 hours ago, Liftreallyheavy said:

Agree they gave a very timely response and agree bloods would be best and definitive way to solve this. Just not going into public at all at this time and avoiding as much contact as possible (lost a family member already to COVID-19). 

Is there a chance a vial was treated incorrectly? Is there a chance that one of the processes went wrong? I do not know. I’m not saying I know. All I’m saying is I know my body, I know how I feel on PED’s and unfortunately this product just didn’t stack up to other UGL’s iced used on my more than 20 cycles over 7 years. 

All I can concretely offer is my experience with the product compared to past cycles and past labs. 

Just so no one thinks I’m flaming I’d like to remind everyone, shipping, packaging and Test E were all 10/10. Just don’t recommend the Tren E unfortunately as I’ve never seen such poor results with such consistent diet and training (friendly reminder that I’m a retired professional athlete who’s worked with great nutritionists and trainers who’ve worked with many professional and Olympic athletes). I also have plenty of experience with PED’s and many brands.

I’m simply of the mindset that they could’ve kept my business if they were willing to figure out a more amicable situation. I do agree bloods are a fair and great idea, just not going into a doctors office during a pandemic which I think is also a fair point. 

thanks for your review,

this isnt a discussion thread. you not happy,that is fine. dont order again

this board doesn't accept bloods from random people due to the drama and politics caused by idiots ,mainly in the canadian business. Have a look at the scammer section and you'll be amazed with the nonsense that comes out from the canadian boards and labs. Again thank you for your review

P.S tren e and cough have absolutely 0 Correlation,many report it from tren ace only

Like I stated prior,there’s a few reasons you could experience this..I’ll start with the leading one!
It’s known as

“POME” Pulmonary oil microembolism..What is that? It’s simply a case of acute respiratory distress and hypoxemia,following the accidental intravenous injection of an oil steroid solution (I’ll enclose a study on this)..The oil solution is carried through the blood stream making is way to the lungs, in which the reaction of coughing is simply your bodies way of clearing it out!
Speaking of solution, Benzyl Benzoate (BB is found present in MOST UGL products) Is an other agent that’s known for causing respiratory distress, which in this is temporary acute onset of “Anaphylaxis” (I’ll enclose a study on this as well)..

Can this be avoid?
Not really because this can happen just from passing through a vein,but it’s great practice to aspirate in areas that are prone to posses more veins and arteries!

Why does this seem to happen most when it pertains to Trenbolone?

Trenbolone increases the rise of prostaglandin production which can have great influence over bronchial constriction..
What are prostaglandins? There group of hormone-like lipid compounds/cells that are derived enzymatically from fatty acids that are precursors of Cyclooxygenase & Lipoxygenase..
Lipoxygenase has some dictation through pathways which is expressed through branches of bronchi, in the entire respiratory system..When the Cox-2 (lipo) levels increase it tends to have restriction or expulsion in the respiratory region..Thus,this is what dicates the “Tren cough”..

This tends to happen more with the Ace ester as it cause a faster metabolization and a faster rise with the prostaglandin levels!

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I just got through my third cycle with BT and I have had a few buddies also give it a go all around the same consensus. Amazing products. I did a round of Tren A + Sust 350, tried the jackhammer and pornstar. They are a lot of fun and work quickly. The injectable are smooth and pain free almost every time (my fault the times there is pain.) minimal PIP, tren cough is a bitch but it’s expected with Tren A from my personal experience. The Sust 350 blows me away every time with how crystal clear it is and how smooth the injections are. The results are amazing every cycle with the strength boosts, sex drive, and my overall energy and awareness just feels elevated for whole duration of the cycle.  I’ve been training in powerlifting trying to eat more and keep the weight off and this helped with the weight portion eating 4-5k cals a day which was a big change from 2500ish per day.  That with the amazing strength boosts helped me through this round of programming and I am looking forward to the next.  Towards the end of the cycle (last two weeks) I started having trouble sleeping but it didn’t affect my energy levels or workouts thankfully. That side dissipated shortly after coming off, I am sure COVID isolation somewhat contributed. The rep I email is always quick with responses and informative whenever I asked questions. By far my favourite lab to deal with. Looking forward to trying the shredder compound!!

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Just wanted to say I've been running stanolone at 60mg for the past 3 weeks along side trt dose of test 125mg and man what a great drug. Dht dev and packs a nice punch to it. Within the first week dropped a couple pounds water weight, dried and tightened me up a ton, vascularity through the roof, as well as libido through the roof. 

 

A nice simple healthy stack to cut up during covid until gyms reopen. Great product might be my favorite oral now. 

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10 hours ago, Littlefry said:

Just wanted to say I've been running stanolone at 60mg for the past 3 weeks along side trt dose of test 125mg and man what a great drug. Dht dev and packs a nice punch to it. Within the first week dropped a couple pounds water weight, dried and tightened me up a ton, vascularity through the roof, as well as libido through the roof. 

 

A nice simple healthy stack to cut up during covid until gyms reopen. Great product might be my favorite oral now. 

So stanolone actually works? I researched a bit that says 1-3% is absorbed. Must be very potent then. Is it 17 methylated?

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I'm very surprised at the bad review of Tren E.  I've been using BT for a year now and never had an issue.   I actually prefer the long esters as after years, I hate pinning now.  Last year getting ready for Nationals I ran BT Tren E at 400mg (max) per week with great results. No complaints. 

As far as Tren cough, I don't think I ever got it with Tren E, maybe like once.  And the only time I get it, it seems if it's a bad injection.  Like pinning the same spot too soon, or hitting scar tissue (another reason why I like long esters, is to avoid these situations); as soon as I pin and can feel it's not a right spot (too painful, have to jam extra hard etc.) I already know that the cough is coming ha ha  (hate it).  

I'm currently running Test Cyp, Tren E and Mast E all from BT, ordered back in February.   The plan was to do 1.5ml Test twice a week (750mg per week) and 0.75ml Tren E and 0.75ml Mast E twice per week (300mg each per week).  But with this Covid quarantine, home workouts only and mainly being too damn lazy, it has been only injected once per week at best 90% of the time; so really only running 375 Test, 150 Tren, 150 Mat per week, and I'm very happy with the results. 

I got really sick last week of February and was off work for almost 2 weeks.  Pretty much didn't leave my couch.  Not sure if it was Covid (I know everyone, that had any sort of cold thinks they had covid lol), but it hit me pretty hard.  Chills on and off, slept a lot, no appetite.  I lost 16lbs in 10 days; went from 258.6 to 241.3 lbs.  Not pretty. 

After a week or so of feeling better, I jumped back on.  Got to go to the gym for a two weeks and then they shut down. Got back up to 249 when the gyms closed.  Anyways, with the above, minuscule cycle, and home workouts consisting of only a bench, adjustable dumbbells (up to 65), resistance bands and a pull up bar, I'm back up to 263lbs as of this morning (been holding between 260 to 265 last couple weeks).  So I can safely say, the cycle is doing it's job.  Also, I think I trained legs once this whole lock down, as I really have no room and the leg workouts sucked anyways.  Overall, I'm happy with my weight, condition is good (can still see all abs when flexing) and  I have no doubt I can be stage ready in 8 weeks. 

As far as the Tren E, I don't get 'crazy sides' from it, but I know it's tren right away.  Right away my mentality changes, and I sort of get that cold personality in my head, where I get thoughts about not caring about relationships, and thinking being single would be better, just doing my own thing (become kind of distant, but very aware of it and don't act on it).  Tren is the only drug that does this to me.  Don't really get insomnia at lower doses, but I do have a harder falling asleep, as my mind races a bit as if I had too much caffeine even though I feel sleepy.  Again only Tren does this to me.  Strength is up, and I'm looking harder than if I wasn't on Tren. 

So anyways, sorry for the long post.  But overall, I'm very happy with Tren E, and will actually be ordering more in the next few days.  Hoping gyms will open soon and I can put it to proper use.  So not sure  about how legit Liftreallyheavy review is, as I just see only 4 posts from him.  Although, it's an in-depth post, that is fairly well written, I always take posts with a grain of salt when the poster claims about being an elite professional athlete, who's worked with only the best around the world and provides no back up.  Would love to see a pic of him and his world class body holding up a vial of the bad Tren E (cropped head for privacy), otherwise that claim just goes out the window (kind of like the guys that post on forums, about how they are getting huge from only eating 100g protein a day or running barely any gear, but they never put up pictures lol), and if I have my doubts about his claims of achievements,  I also have my doubts about his 'review'.   And to be even more skeptical, someone with a great body could be motivated to post a bad review, but at least it would give the poster some credit. 

Maybe he did have a bad experience, all I know is I'm very happy with mine and never once questioned anything.  And if the gear is really shit, than I must have some awesome genetics because in my 40s I'm still growing muscles. (and my genetics suck, I was a 165lbs at 6'4" at one time lol)

TLDR: I'm happy with all the gear I've used from BT, and have always felt Tren E kick in, even in little doses

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I have used BT's stuff for a few years new. Last time I left the review of DHB, all good. This cycle I'm using use primo and test with some sarms.

I don't think I need to say anything about the primo and test, you guys all know the quality of it. MK677 which I took at 25mg per day is legit. After
a week of usage my hand feeling numb and the tiredness at night was hitting me pretty hard. It settles down in week 3 but the tiredness keeps on going,

I'm pretty confident to say the mk677 is legit.

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Purchased some EQ/Test-E/Jackhammer/Anavar/Winstrol BT.

Shipping was fast and I received my order in less than a week from payment. Rep was really professional to deal with. 

EQ/Test are great. Really feel the Anavar and the pumps from that are great. Jackhammer is a whole other animal. I'm definitely keeping that stock piled for future.

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@king101 which you know is a complete lie , I’ve replied to you each time I do have the email thread , I also believe that you were using 2 different email addys and trying to be a little deceiving? Which is factual because it would be awfully ironic that 2 different people would have the same shipping address 🙂

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1 minute ago, BodyTechPharma said:

@king101 which you know is a complete lie , I’ve replied to you each time I do have the email thread , I also believe that you were using 2 different email addys and trying to be a little deceiving? Which is factual because it would be awfully ironic that 2 different people would have the same shipping address 🙂

come check me in pv, it wasn’t a bad comment, i just assume that you didnt receive my emails

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8 hours ago, BodyTechPharma said:

Shoot me an email sir I haven’t received anything from you , I responded to everyone promptly.

Hey bro I’m gonna send again, I hope u weren’t referring to this guy thinking’s it me. I always use the same email and have been for the past three years plus. must be Tutanota... I replied to last order email because of the aromasin from last time 

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