MaskedMisery Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) Hey guys, Asking for your knowledge to help me out a bit with an injury that I have with my right front delt. It's to the point where I have trouble lifting my cup of coffee or any weight in front of me. I do not have pain if I lift anything to the side, only right in front of me. Front raises are a big no no with any weight. I have been having this injury for 3 months now and no sign of it getting any better. I have stopped exercises that isolate the front delt for 3 months also in the hope it would go away, but no, still there. Did I tear something? Chest or even bicep tear? It's also painful when I press a bit on it, it radiates pain a bit and then goes away. I do not have any previous injury to the shoulder, this would be my first one to the front delt. I have an appointment with my doctor beginning of October to see if she can help me out, but would prefer to know what it is before seeing her. Thanks a lot in advance! Edit : Nature of injury is unknown, I think it might have happened when I was helping my sister move some rocks from her backyard. I add at least 60-70 pounds of rocks in a bucket and my shoulder was slightly away from my body, maybe too much pressure in the shoulder for too long? But not sure if that was it Edited September 27, 2019 by maskedmisery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis "Frank" Castle Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, maskedmisery said: Hey guys, Asking for your knowledge to help me out a bit with an injury that I have with my right front delt. It's to the point where I have trouble lifting my cup of coffee or any weight in front of me. I do not have pain if I lift anything to the side, only right in front of me. Front raises are a big no no with any weight. I have been having this injury for 3 months now and no sign of it getting any better. I have stopped exercises that isolate the front delt for 3 months also in the hope it would go away, but no, still there. Did I tear something? Chest or even bicep tear? It's also painful when I press a bit on it, it radiates pain a bit and then goes away. I do not have any previous injury to the shoulder, this would be my first one to the front delt. I have an appointment with my doctor beginning of October to see if she can help me out, but would prefer to know what it is before seeing her. Thanks a lot in advance! I don't think its a rotator cuff tear as thats gonna hurt no matter what/how you are lifting. Sounds more like Bursitis or Tendonitis but you need to see an ortho specialist regardless. Do anti-inflammatries ease the pain at all? Hot compresses or ice any effect? If NSAID and either ice or hot make it feel better that's gonna point to the Bursitis or Tendonitis more than the cuff but again at 3 months and no improvement, you need to get it looked at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedMisery Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Francis "Frank" Castle said: I don't think its a rotator cuff tear as thats gonna hurt no matter what/how you are lifting. Sounds more like Bursitis or Tendonitis but you need to see an ortho specialist regardless. Do anti-inflammatries ease the pain at all? Hot compresses or ice any effect? If NSAID and either ice or hot make it feel better that's gonna point to the Bursitis or Tendonitis more than the cuff but again at 3 months and no improvement, you need to get it looked at. Will definitely get it looked at. Im thinking the same as you, maybe a Bursitis, it does not look inflamed, but I think Bursitis may take a lot more time to heal then a Tendinitis. I was taking Voltaren Emulgel for a while to see if it would stop the pain, but it didn't do much for me so I stopped. I also forgot to mention that my shoulder *clack* a lot when I move it around and I can feel something is wrong in the front delt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis "Frank" Castle Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 38 minutes ago, maskedmisery said: Will definitely get it looked at. Im thinking the same as you, maybe a Bursitis, it does not look inflamed, but I think Bursitis may take a lot more time to heal then a Tendinitis. I was taking Voltaren Emulgel for a while to see if it would stop the pain, but it didn't do much for me so I stopped. I also forgot to mention that my shoulder *clack* a lot when I move it around and I can feel something is wrong in the front delt Depending on where you are it usually doesn't take too long to get in to see an ortho specialist as there's a ton of them. They'l take some pics and figure it out but now that you mention the joint is noisy that may change things as to what it is, dunno. Let us know what the doc says! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzyx Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Can start here: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedMisery Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 2:19 PM, Francis "Frank" Castle said: Depending on where you are it usually doesn't take too long to get in to see an ortho specialist as there's a ton of them. They'l take some pics and figure it out but now that you mention the joint is noisy that may change things as to what it is, dunno. Let us know what the doc says! Went to see my doc today, I have some ultrasound to do to see perfectly whats going on, but she thinks it might be a calcific tendonitis. I will be sure sometime next week when ultrasound are done this friday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis "Frank" Castle Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 10:31 PM, Fizzyx said: Can start here: hehehe...I love these guys, they're hilarious, on top of being informative! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 @maskedmisery this might be a question best asked to our resident expert @Physlifter I think he’s your man for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physlifter Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 20 hours ago, maskedmisery said: Went to see my doc today, I have some ultrasound to do to see perfectly whats going on, but she thinks it might be a calcific tendonitis. I will be sure sometime next week when ultrasound are done this friday. calcific tendonitis within the long head biceps is plausible any forward movement that causes pain is almost exclusively biceps. If you do band movement from internal to external and back to internal rotation, does that hurt? Does chest pressing hurt at the most down stretch position? if those two don't hurt, then I can all but guarantee it's long head biceps. Lots and lots of low grade band rehab repeating that movement helps flood blood to it. Avoiding long reach and loading movements helps. Keep palms up and in close if you have to lift things. If it's a constant throb add ice to it first, then proceed with heat. If it is calcific tendonitis, there's lots in physio that can be done to help break down the deposits, absorb back into the body, and reduce the overall inflamed tendon. If there are larger deposits, nothing short of shockwave therapy will help that (and that hurts like a bitch), if it does at all. Lots of people have calcium deposits have zero symptoms either, so it may or may not be correlational. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 @maskedmisery told you @Physlifter was your man , the man is a wealth of knowledge in this area very valued member of the board not to mention a real nice guy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedMisery Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Physlifter said: calcific tendonitis within the long head biceps is plausible any forward movement that causes pain is almost exclusively biceps. If you do band movement from internal to external and back to internal rotation, does that hurt? Does chest pressing hurt at the most down stretch position? if those two don't hurt, then I can all but guarantee it's long head biceps. Lots and lots of low grade band rehab repeating that movement helps flood blood to it. Avoiding long reach and loading movements helps. Keep palms up and in close if you have to lift things. If it's a constant throb add ice to it first, then proceed with heat. If it is calcific tendonitis, there's lots in physio that can be done to help break down the deposits, absorb back into the body, and reduce the overall inflamed tendon. If there are larger deposits, nothing short of shockwave therapy will help that (and that hurts like a bitch), if it does at all. Lots of people have calcium deposits have zero symptoms either, so it may or may not be correlational. Oh no not my bicep again I have an history of weak tendon/ligament with my right bicep so it's no surprise to me that it could be the problem. I though it was the delt but now that I think about it yeah I think it is the long head of the bicep as you said since it attachs itself near that region? Should I stop bicep curls or any bicep movement with high weights and just work with bands for now until I have a diagnosis? I definitely think its the bicep since as you said no pain with what you told me to try. Had a chest workout yesterday and no pain in the shoulder in the most down stretch position. I will keep you updated beginning of next week to confirm or not that it is calcific tendonitis. Thank you for your knowledge, I really appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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