NorthernLifters Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Lot of talk on PM about this and confirmed by a few sources/sponsors "There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law. If all factories closed, we will have no source to get raws. " This would cause a major disruption and kill off many ugl. Stay tuned.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedMisery Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 That's a hard one to digest.. Hopefully ugl's can find a way to stay in operation with the ban.. I'll be following on this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funlog Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Yikes! Time to stock up. Even if some do survive, I can see prices going up. Thanks for the update @NorthernLifters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey5150 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, NorthernLifters said: Lot of talk on PM about this and confirmed by a few sources/sponsors "There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law. If all factories closed, we will have no source to get raws. " This would cause a major disruption and kill off many ugl. Stay tuned.. I honestly doubt it will change much, I see higher prices for a while potentially - but I expect business will go back to normal. If not, I'm sure other countries will pick up the slack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobTheOldLifter Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Yeah, where there's demand, there will be supply, just a matter of price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 @NorthernLifters thanks brother , I was hearing this too , it’s kind of alarming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryujiin Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 hours ago, NorthernLifters said: "There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law." That said, were there is money to be made, people will always find a work around. The number of things that are "banned" in the PRC but are still in operation is pretty silly. Just less out in the open. Same as other countries. I do agree we will see some price increases though given the supplier that do stay open will have less competition and higher "expenses" with all the "greasing" they will be doing with local authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nissan Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 7 hours ago, NorthernLifters said: Lot of talk on PM about this and confirmed by a few sources/sponsors "There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law. If all factories closed, we will have no source to get raws. " This would cause a major disruption and kill off many ugl. Stay tuned.. Ummm... India??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryujiin Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I would be curious to see what the new "banned" list will cover once it is released or if a draft is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryujiin Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Fresh off the press: 2019 Banned Substance List.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosconow Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Translation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryujiin Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rosconow said: Translation? Chem names are all in English and Chinese. The intro more or rest just states that its an update to existing policies. Whats a little odd as it states the implementation date as of Jan 1, 2019...so take that with a grain of salt. Rough translation as: State General Administration of Sports Ministry of Commerce of the People's National Health And Health Commission of the People's Republic of China General Administration of Customs of the People' State Drug Administration Public notice Number 39 2019 Doping Catalog Announcement According to UNESCO's "State against Doping in Sport" the relevant provisions of the Convention and the State Council's Anti-Doping Regulations, which will now be The doping catalog is published as follows. Relevant departments shall, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Anti-Doping Regulations of the State Council, Production, sale, import and export of substances listed in the 2019 doping catalog, and Supervision and administration of anti-doping. Protein assimilation agents and peptide hormones Import and export management in accordance with the "protein assimilation agents and peptide hormones import and export management office Law (State Food and Drug Administration General Administration General Administration General Administration Order of the General Administration of Sports no. 9) of the relevant provisions of the implementation. This directory is different from previous years' catalogs, whichever is the basis for this directory. This announcement will be implemented as of January 1, 2019. General Bureau of Physical Education, Ministry of Commerce of the People's Republic of China National Health and Health Commission of the People's Republic of China General Administration of Customs State Drug Administration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryujiin Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Here the link for the press release for those who want to drop it into google translate: http://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1650655188269513998&wfr=spider&for=pc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instagrande Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:35 PM, NorthernLifters said: Lot of talk on PM about this and confirmed by a few sources/sponsors "There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law. If all factories closed, we will have no source to get raws. " This would cause a major disruption and kill off many ugl. Stay tuned.. Shit gets banned in China ALL the time. Just look at the opioid crisis. It's illegal to make or sell opioids but there's companies that openly still do that and supply raws in the US and Canada. There's such a massive demand for steroids that it will keep continuing. The same people creating laws to ban shit in China are the same people that are in cahoots with the people making the shit. Chinese government is the most corrupt in the world. They're the biggest gangsters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosconow Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Probably will be the reason prices go up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobTheOldLifter Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 9 hours ago, instagrande said: Shit gets banned in China ALL the time. Just look at the opioid crisis. It's illegal to make or sell opioids but there's companies that openly still do that and supply raws in the US and Canada. There's such a massive demand for steroids that it will keep continuing. The same people creating laws to ban shit in China are the same people that are in cahoots with the people making the shit. Chinese government is the most corrupt in the world. They're the biggest gangsters. Yeah, I'm thinking a few more greased palms and it will be business as usual, maybe with moderate price increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosconow Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) I contacted my overseas supplier and asked the question. The email responses start from the bottom and replies ascend the page. Edited December 3, 2019 by Rosconow 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobTheOldLifter Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 So....what I'm hearing is that if we're running low, you'll hook us all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instagrande Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hahaha. Looks like the small businesses that don't have government connections are being shut down and the one's who do get a "certificate" and are free to make and sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Dispensaries Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 My understanding so far is that China has banned Cialis and Viagra for sure. I can not speak the rest. I will let you know when I know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) I believe this is overhyped. China has agreed to crack down on illegal steroid producers in 2020, not to ban steroids. Believe it or not the vast majority of our raws come from legal suppliers in China. It's not hard at all in China to get approval to manufacture drugs in general let alone steroids for distribution. Illegal producers would be ones manufacturing patented drugs or doing it without a permit. None of our drugs are still under patent in NA and it's so easy to get a permit in China. I believe the patent issue is why they are cracking down specifically in Viagra, Cialis and Levitra. Edited December 4, 2019 by Blitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryujiin Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 As an FYI: Me: "I just wanted to inquire if your business operation will continue as normal into the year 2020 with the rumours of tougher rules on distribution of product and raws?" Melody: "Yes, we will!" Only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freake1 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 It seems like my connect is already shut down. The site is gone and no reply from other sales reps with that company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) I know some UGLs have already made some adjustments but as I said before, if your supplier was legitimate this shouldn't impact your raws. Getting a license to produce AAS legally in China is ready, it just takes money. This is the same as all the body rub shit in Ontario. Body rubs are legal, you pay like $10,000 a year for a license. However a homeopathic massage license is like $275. If you give body rubs with the wrong license it's against the law. Edited January 12, 2020 by Blitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrikito Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I can already see that the prices has been doubled at PurplePanda and so at DragonOrdnance. I hope they will normalize in a couple of months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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