New to sarms, got a couple questions

[Davis1891]

Hey guys, so I’ve been around for a while but I’ve never dabbled with any sarms before. I’m thinking about giving it a go to give my ass cheeks a bit of a rest from the needles, but I’ve got a few questions before I really start digging into researching more.

Im thinking about trying mk-677,

1) what would the dosing be like?

2) I’ve been on trt for several years, is there any problems with injecting test cyp with this? 

and 3) I’ve read it can help with healing, now I’ve got severe tennis elbow (fucking horrible), would this be a cheaper alternative to bpc 157/tb-500?

Thanks

[Local Dipshit]

Id say start with 12.5mg and guage it from there. 25mg is at the top end. You'll definitely notice some bloat as this stuff packs on the water for most, including me, but its a different feel. I find i loose fat once my body becomes accustomed to it. I read this a long time ago and i believe it holds to be very true from all my research on this sarm. Also play with the schedule, i.e. morning or night before bed. I find it is best for me in the am i dont get as lethargic - this is another side.

After treatment with 10 mg MK-677, IGF-I concentrations increased 52 +/- 20% (65 +/- 6 to 99 +/- 9 micrograms/L, geometric mean +/- intrasubject SE, P < or = 0.05 vs. baseline), and 24 h mean GH concentrations increased 79 +/- 19% (0.14 +/- 0.01 to 0.26 +/- 0.02 microgram/L, P < or = 0.05 vs. baseline).

Following treatment with 50 mg MK-677, IGF-I concentrations increased 79 +/- 9% (84 +/- 3 to 150 +/- 6 micrograms/L, P < or = 0.05 vs. baseline) and 24-h mean GH concentrations increased 82 +/- 29% (0.21 +/- 0.02 to 0.39 +/- 0.04 microgram/L, P < or = 0.05 vs. baseline), respectively. Serum IGF binding protein-3 concentrations increased with both 10 mg (1.2 +/- 0.1 to 1.7 +/- 0.1 micrograms/L, P < or = 0.05) and 50 mg MK-677 (1.7 +/- 0.1 to 2.2 +/- 0.2 micrograms/L, P < or = 0.05).”

So in short at a lower dose GH concentrations were relatively the same, its the IGF-1 that was more elevated at the higher dose which some people are after.  Yes it does help with healing also, i find my joints are more cushioned just after a few days. If you know you have legit MK this stuff works fast, increased hunger and vivid dreams. I gained 10 pounds in a week lol

No you can stack this with just about anything

Edited November 14, 2018 by ElectricRocker

[Davis1891]

37 minutes ago, ElectricRocker said:

Id say start with 12.5mg and guage it from there. 25mg is at the top end. You'll definitely notice some bloat as this stuff packs on the water for most, including me, but its a different feel. I find i loose fat once my body becomes accustomed to it. I read this a long time ago and i believe it holds to be very true from all my research on this sarm. Also play with the schedule, i.e. morning or night before bed. I find it is best for me in the am i dont get as lethargic - this is another side.

After treatment with 10 mg MK-677, IGF-I concentrations increased 52 +/- 20% (65 +/- 6 to 99 +/- 9 micrograms/L, geometric mean +/- intrasubject SE, P < or = 0.05 vs. baseline), and 24 h mean GH concentrations increased 79 +/- 19% (0.14 +/- 0.01 to 0.26 +/- 0.02 microgram/L, P < or = 0.05 vs. baseline).

Following treatment with 50 mg MK-677, IGF-I concentrations increased 79 +/- 9% (84 +/- 3 to 150 +/- 6 micrograms/L, P < or = 0.05 vs. baseline) and 24-h mean GH concentrations increased 82 +/- 29% (0.21 +/- 0.02 to 0.39 +/- 0.04 microgram/L, P < or = 0.05 vs. baseline), respectively. Serum IGF binding protein-3 concentrations increased with both 10 mg (1.2 +/- 0.1 to 1.7 +/- 0.1 micrograms/L, P < or = 0.05) and 50 mg MK-677 (1.7 +/- 0.1 to 2.2 +/- 0.2 micrograms/L, P < or = 0.05).”

So in short at a lower dose GH concentrations were relatively the same, its the IGF-1 that was more elevated at the higher dose which some people are after.  Yes it does help with healing also, i find my joints are more cushioned just after a few days. If you know you have legit MK this stuff works fast, increased hunger and vivid dreams. I gained 10 pounds in a week lol

No you can stack this with just about anything

Thanks man, how long have you ran it for?

[Rosconow]

Hey bud, 

I'm on trt also. Been on mk677 now almost 5 months. Started at 7.5mg first week, then moved to 12.5mg for a couple then up to 25mg for the majority of time. 

I never had any of the ravenous hunger that's talked about, but i did go through some mild cts (now subsided) numb tingly hands on/off, water, strength shot up. 

I started the mk after a test blast, thinking to use it as a bridge... i started gaining weight on the mk, all be it water, but my muscles felt full and pumped! And my strength started going up.... after my cycle. Thank you igf.

Anyways i love the shit. At least with 677, there were a couple longer term human studies that ruled out liver toxicity, and proved increased gh and igf levels.

[Local Dipshit]

2 hours ago, Davis1891 said:

Thanks man, how long have you ran it for?

I did it for up to 2 months on then took a month off and repeated. I’m getting more and will play around a little lol

[Pump_And_Hump]

Ive been on gh and never had any hunger gains,if mk677 is an oral hgh it should mimic gh. Increase of gh levels is only one aspect of hgh,electricrocker is right,its the igf levels that count . If mk677 was anything near true hgh i am positive all the big pros would be raving about this. I am extremely skeptical of this product and will wait till big pharma companies show studies of this

[Rosconow]

Mk677 is a grehlin (sic?) mimic, very similar in action to ghrp2 & 6 from all the research i've done.

More than a few guys have posted their labs with elevated igf-1 over on Professional Muscle. Take that for what it's worth.  

[Local Dipshit]

Just found this online and was just posted yesterday. Labs while on Mk 677. Fyi

Got the results in for 11/2/2018 (8 months on mk677, 25mg in the am)

will post actual lab tomorrow when have more time.
-------------------------------------------------
IGF-1 range for my age group of 48 = 67 to 205 ng/ml

4-6-18, baseline igf -1 = 227 ng/ml----------------------------------------------------- baseline
4-11-18, 2 days on 4iu of Chinese pharm grade gh = 380 ng/ml----------------increase of 153 points
4-25-18, 2 weeks on mk677 only = 372 ng/ml----------------------------------------increase of 145 points
9-7-18, 6 months on mk677 only = 322 ng/ml----------------------------------------increase of 95 points
11-2-18, 8 months on mk677 only = 302 ng/ml--------------------------------------increase of 75 points

302 ng/ml igf-1 is equivalent of 3.2 iu pharm grade GH from China, as 95 point raise per each 1iu of hgh for me.

[Rosconow]

I know I'm getting results from mk. Good find @ElectricRocker.

[Local Dipshit]

23 minutes ago, Rosconow said:

I know I'm getting results from mk. Good find @ElectricRocker.

No prob man I thought I was too. What kind of results you seeing so far ?

Edited November 17, 2018 by ElectricRocker

[Rosconow]

8 minutes ago, ElectricRocker said:

No prob man I thought I was too. What kind of results you seeing so far ?

Basically all the sides/ results you get from low dose hgh. Water retention, mild cps, tingly numb hands upon waking, pumps, strength increase.... i have run it as as stand alone prior and currently to any aas cycles. 

 I asked my doc for a gh/ igf test in conjunction with my trt bloods, he laughed and said that he doesn't prescribe me hgh so he wouldn't be able to justify the test.

Gotta love our socialist health care system. It may be "free" of sorts, but there is a cost.