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12 hours ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:

No we aren’t I promise you , We want to clear all the Ai Drugs and all the variables and bring you back to your trt clean and if you give him a chance there are foods and supplements to help estrogen that aren’t so harsh it’s kinda like when a computer is running a program in the background to keep it safe,  they are working and you don’t notice them so it won’t crash you , Ok and his test prop comment is because of how short the half life is it’s up and down, I know you said the test e you didn’t like , tell it’s not the test it’s just the ester attached that gives it the half life , did you try the test-e twice a week say every 3.5 days to stabilize your blood levels? Everyone here is just trying to help.

I understand but I went to plenty of doctors and my t was at bottom of range!

so ur telling me every time u crash ur e2 u come off trt dosent make sense like I said I just did.blood work everything is fine ur telling me to get off and do the same blood work just with low t? If other variables are causing my problems then what would being on trt or off make a difference in diagnosis?

yes I tried other esters but my e2 got to high and like I said I felt like a woman and had nasty high e2 symptoms 

10 minutes ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:

For one he’s very experienced and just trying to help with the question you asked , What he is saying it try to eliminate some of the variables reset and come back with one item at a time so you can pinpoint the problem and eliminate it , If you have been to doctors with no help why not try ? We all suffer from low-t from using gear and yes it is terrible but a little discomfort until you resolve this is worth it in the long run. I also ask that you refrain from speaking to My Staff in that manner he was trying to help. He is well respected in his field and trusted . I have personally went to him on an issue of my own that is now resolved with his help. This is a friendly warning I wouldn’t let him speak to you that way and I would speak to him if he did. So please respect my Staff.

I understand but that dosent make any sense I had low t from genetics no libido for years etc now I started test to make my life better I did blood work before getting on a few months ago all was good!

i have low t that’s causing my low sex drive I’m trying to fix it and this guy is telling me to come off because I crashed my e2 dosent make much sense to me! Why would I start trt just to come off and start again when I know the problem is low test! Ur asking me to go back to low t just for the sake of it

4 minutes ago, Corey5150 said:

I'd come off until you get this sorted - or go see an actual doctor. Were you noticing adverse side effects? I don't think you mentioned that (I haven't had my morning coffee lol)

Things to keep in mind, everyone metabolizes things differently so learn your body and how you react. I dont know how many times I've posted in threads to stop abusing AIs - use them when needed and when needed ONLY.

You call yourself a "fat powerlifter" lol so based on that observation your loss of appetite could be a cause of several things not solely estro related.

Why in the world are you using test prop for TRT?

Come off and stop playing guessing games my friend. 

Why the fuck would I come off when I had low t for years and was suffering immensely!

come off just to read that I have low t perfect blood pressure and normal e2!

what fucking sense would that make?

get what sorted I had low t now I’m on trt i started test prop because I struggled to control e2 on test e and less frequent injections!

fat powerlifter is sarcasm! I’m just not ripped and stage ready is what I mean!

Update!

e2 still crashed for some reason I can’t upload my blood work anymore cause they send it to me through adobe and it won’t open on my phone

my joint pain and lack of appetite is honestly starting to become a problem! And the low pressure in my head I feel like I’m fucking dying when I wake up my body is so dry and achy!

woudl it be better to up my test dose or add hcg I didn’t wanna take hcg cause i hate making it and the shelf life is 30 days so I would have to constantly keep ordering it which would be a pain!

It’s been a 11 weeks blood test confirmed my e2 is still crashed!

my joints hurt so bad I couldn’t even finish my leg day after my top set of 150 front squat for 50 reps! Hip felt like it was gonna break I woke up and my joints are so dry!

someone recommended hcg but wouldn’t my e2 just drop off after stopping it? I’d rAther just raise my test dose?

I hear prop dosent aromatizE as hard

Dam wish they had stanolone still in stock fuck I’m dying to try it any updates

19 minutes ago, a_ahmed said:

Lmao im naturally a hairy guy. No asian in me that i know of asian dudes And natives are probably the only ones with little no body hair. Im literally on the beast side and shave

Did stanolone increase hair?

52 minutes ago, Ryujiin said:

My bro has been using it, seems not too bad.

 

Does that stanolone make u hairy?

i want it to make me hairy is it possible? hate loooing like a feminine nice guy! I was watching a documentary on ancient warriors and those guys all had aesthetic facias! Really manly leather skin and beards all symptoms of high dht!

Does that stanolone make u hairy?

Yah unfortunate hope they update soon

When is stanolone gonna be back in stock I wanna try it so bad

39 minutes ago, Littlefry said:

Exactly. Reset your baselines as stated come off and clean your system out. As somehow your running 2x (from 125mg to 250mg) the test and your estro is like 7x lower (72 vs 12) which does not make any sense. 

And as Ryu stated ed injections do not bring down e2. 250mg once a week vs 250mg split over 7 days is still 250mg regardless of the Ester is still going to convert to estrogen. 

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"Someone" is not you or your body. As stated come off and pct reset your baselines...

Will like u said it dosent make sense but it’s true! It’s not impossible?

1 minute ago, Ryujiin said:

Come off, do a PCT, reset to baseline and verify all is good. 

Then cycle back on as needed. 

FYI, ED injections do not bring down E2, the just support a better E2 conversion profile (so a lower possible number) than say once a week injections. 

I had ran a few cycles and have low t so that’s not a option as my natty t was as low as 70!

so what are my options for making this work

1 hour ago, Ryujiin said:

I believe he was running 0.5mg ED. FYI

There is a lot here that does not make any sense.  If you were "fat" and injecting into your "love handles" then you were probably not injecting sub-Q assuming you were using a slin pin.  Must have had some nice oil pockets. 

Anyway, that's off topic. 

From the timeline I am trying to wrap my head around this;

You were on 125mg test week (with a total T of 369) and crashed your estro with adex and your current protocol is 250mg test with an E2 of 72?  

Or you had an E2 of 72 on 125mg (which is...odd) so you killed it with the adex after getting the test report back...now you are 250mg and don't have your current E2 number or test results?

No I was on 125 mg of test once a week injections my estrogen came back at 72 so I Started .5 mg of adex Ed got my e2 to 12 didn’t feel any better so ditched ai and started 250 mg of prop Ed injections now my e2 has been stuck at 12 for the last 8 weeks blood test confirmed! Someone mentioned to me who was on trt themeself there e2 stays the same between 100 mg and 300 mg and yes I got follow up bloods e2 is still low!

and Ed injections will bring e2 down!

59 minutes ago, Littlefry said:

What do the rest of your bloods look like? What else where you running when you where popping 5mg adex ED, test dose, other drugs, ect... cause something doesn't make sense here. On 125mg test only. Not saying it can't be but we need the full picture to look at... 

Note do research, playing with your hormomes isn't something to just mess with. Lots of knowledge ppl on these boards to reach out to. 

I’m a fat powerlifter I was Injection once a week sub q right into love handle fat! I had test levels of 369 I think that was the problem low test high estrogen Ed injections sorted that out!

prolactin everything else was In rage 

t4

t3 

some reason the document won’t load it’s saying it’s expired in my email so that’s the only bloodwork pic I have cause it was on my camera roll!

i was running nothing else that’s it!

1 hour ago, MedicusResearch said:

Yes please post blood work, I have a hard time believing that on 125mg you needed an ai Stranger things have happened but the dose you speak is usually a trt dose for many men.

This is when I was only on 125 mg? E2 was at 72? Now my e2 is stuck at 12 on 250 mg of prop!

I had problem controlling e2 on test e on just a 125 mg?

Being the idiot I am and lack of knowledge I thought u needed low estrogen to feel good on testosterone! So I took.5 mg of adex Ed and crashed to 12 on sensitive test! Was crashed for about 10-12 weeks!

i hope I didn’t permently screw my brain up I don’t feel my emotions anymore when I had high e2 I felt like a woman(my emotions were so deep) now I can’t feel anything I feel dead and my appetite is completely gone?

I stopped adex 8 weeks ago

im 250 mg of test prop which I know has low e2 conversion!

They ship to Massachusetts 

dam I wanna order?

1 hour ago, a_ahmed said:

Almost all orals are toxic, exception of a few but they are weak.

Sorry my bad on methylated, I am wrong. It's not

This is stanolone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstanolone

This is methylated androstanolone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mestanolone

However all orals are still pretty much toxic to an extent, really have to worry for the ones that are methylated or double methylated (superdrol).

Also yeah, if you want overall well being, sex drive, etc... you could do it twice a day, I use it for working out mostly so I dose preworkout. But sometimes I have done it first thing in morning then preworkout. Always worked for me best preworkout for my intents. Gives a mental drive, aggression focus to workouts.

 

Also if you want it for HRT type purposes, probably better to use what is normally used for HRT purposes, well being and libidio that's proviron. I like DHTs alot personally... anavar, stanolone, masteron, well superdrol technically is based off of a modified DHT. I think you can try both and see what works for you, proviron or stanolone.

Proviron didn’t work for me tried and tested many different brands free test was elevated also! 

And i wonder how come know one else carries dht pills and just them?

So those dht pills are the liver toxic or not? U said it methylated but they told me it’s not liver toxic?

and would the benefits last all day if I took one in morning one at night on my trt protocol 250 mg of test a week!

How long do the effects last I heard the oral bio avalibity is low? Would it only last for 45 minutes?

Awesome man

Bump!

I’ve been looking everywhere for dht pills and finally found it? I’m wondering if it’s legit? I don’t wanna waste my money on something that’s not gonna work?

Anyone got experience with it?