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On 8/19/2019 at 8:53 AM, Francis "Frank" Castle said:

I don't take it daily, but run a cycle of it for 30 days at 3g/day of Inositol and Choline each. I have a multivitamin that I take that has small doses of each for daily maintenance.

I take 12/day...so 3grams+. Even still, at these 2 being a 1 month supply, this still worked out the cheapest way to do it in Canada short of bringing in kilos of the stuff from China. I could buy bulk from the US but by the time taxes/duties etc got done with it ouch. So given the price for the month and the fact that this is really only necessary as a protocol perhaps 2x or 3x per year depending on how hard you are on your liver, this is pretty economical based on whatever sources I was able to find in Canada.

L-methiolone is a cheap thing to add to choline/inosotil cycle 600mg/day

On 8/19/2019 at 3:10 AM, powerrack said:

Isn't that a very low effective dose of stuff? Typically NAC I do 1200mg. But I'm not 100% sure of choline and inositol doses required to reduce liver stress during oral AAS administration. 

choline / inositol cycles are usually ran after a cycle of gear, it helps the liver, prevents/reverses liver fat accumulation

On 9/5/2019 at 3:17 PM, instagrande said:

^TBH I won't order from supplement source again. Seems like almost everything I bought in my last order gives me terrible acid reflux or gives me diarrhea. And they don't take returns on anything opened

wow that's kind of odd, i felt the same but i chalked it up to me buying their short dated (expired or almost expired) supplements 

i never had any digestive issues with the same brand/product i bought elsewhere, albeit they weren't short-dated

maybe something is wrong with supplementsources supplements they put on clearance, like being in the heat too long/in the sun/humidity. I noticed some of their optimum nutrition whey proteins came sealed in the plastic that covers the lid, but when you open it the white cardboard that seals the container under the lid wasn't intact. Same thing with allmax isoflex i got from them

when i contacted them they said i could return unopened tubs, but would have to pay shipping back to them and they would charge me for the shipping the original order to me, since i got free shipping. They also have a restocking fee in the return policy

anyone else experience the same?

the low prices are pretty unbeatable there, they have $50 for 7.5lbs of optimum nutrition gold standard on clearance, they also just had a 10% off clearance which would have made it $45 

Had a bottle of bodytech dnp left over, never used it cause scooping dnp in your mouth and washing it down with water is never fun. 
feels like choking on dirt and it stains your teeth 

anyways bt rep reccomended I squish it between some candy, got some fruit roll up, they sell these sheets of fruit roll up now. 
Tore off a piece of the fruit roll up sheet and put the dnp ontop, folded it and it turned into a ball you just swallowed. 
 

bt dnp worked like a charm, 3 days, lost 8lbs. Probably can’t handle another day of dnp though so I’m going to call it quits. 
I took calcium pyruvate, 1500mgs every morning as well. Not sure if it did anything but I was recommended by someone to. 

also used some old sibutramine from bodytech had, which completely suppressed appetite all day until night. 

I found dnp works WAY better when you use one bolus dose instead of splitting it through the day. I took my dnp all in one go at the morning, most sides are gone by the middle of the night, so it doesn’t disturb sleep as much. 
anyways just giving credit where it’s due 

Used btech sibutramine for years, just used some and it worked like always, getting full from food way easier. 

Test e is pain free and super thin. Gave up on insulin needle injections, it passed through a 23g like water 

Got some masteron, first time using the new blend (mct oil) and it’s the smoothest year I’ve pinned. It literally flows through a insulin needle like water. I’ve used other mct oil labs in the past but none were as thin as btechs, there was no pip at all either.  

40mgs a day, 3 days in (2 nights) and I felt the mast already from morning wood both mornings. 3rd day I had leaner and tighter stomach as well but that could be from other things I’m taking. 

Will be trying more things in the near future, havnt had an issue from btech ever. 

Was offered to try some dnp from genetec and I hadn’t used capped dnp in a while so thought I’d give it a shot. 

can’t thank genetec enough for letting me try the dnp. I got some test prop and mast prop as well but haven’t used either yet.  

The dnp is powder, 100mg a cap, I never used powder dnp so I started at low doses to be safe 

first day 200mg and tapered to 500mg, the whole dnp cycle was 8 days but felt like it lasted weeks. I was doing a really low calorie diet and lost a good amount of bf and went down 8lbs. Was a kick start to getting back in the gym and it did the job for me 

It’s definitely real dnp the sides were pretty serious, not sure why the sides were a lot more uncomfortable than crystal dnp at similar dosages, there was less heat but more shortness of breath, higher heart rate sort of symptoms. I had to lower the dose some days, so it’s good the caps are 100mg. I’d take 1 cap every couple hours and skip the next doses if I ever felt too uncomfortable.  

Other than that, service was great, communication was great and quality of the caps were good, no loose caps of dnp 

Recently figured out that tren cough is much more frequent when your body temperature is elevated. Not sure why but whenever I use Clen and am feeling hot, every tren injection leads to a nasty cough after. When I’m off Clen, it happens every now and then and is pretty much a couple coughs before it subsides 

any clues why? 

I normally don’t post reviews just because of drama 

but I got some dnp & it’s a dangerous chemical, so I thought I’d make a post.

To make a long story short the dnp is real and  doesn’t have any side effects I’m not familiar with(so it’s definitely dnp), incase anyone was worried. 

So I was told nouveautrope was good and I don’t believe anything said to me. I tested a vial, no label, grey/green top, said "flip off". I’m colour blind so I can’t tell if it’s dark green or dark grey, pictures attached. 

Anyways, I tested a vial last year in 2017. White nouveautrope label, grey top/green top(colour blind). It tested way too high, almost double the amount on the gh serum test of what I usually see pharm gh tested at, so I just avoided it. It was the highest I’ve seen both online and from my own experience. It was a red flag and gh is too expensive to risk. 

I was told it was 100% guaranteed to be good recently, so I tested it just now. Surprisingly I got the same result, it’s 2x higher on gh serums what I usually see, 50+. Not sure why, but it doesn’t seem to have lowered to gh serum level that I usually see, which is around high 20’s to low 30’s. I thought it was an error before and I’d get a more realistic number this time around. 

I do the exact same test and have tested other gh which scored in the high 20’s or low 30’s like normal. Delt injection 10iu, 2 hours to 2 hours 30 minutes after I get my blood drawn at the clinic. I always go early and I let people go ahead of me if it’s my turn too quickly. 

I’ve tested a lot of gh, most of which was completely bunk, some were underdosed, some were good. All the good gh I tested were not from Canada. All the completely bunk ones and underdosed gh were. Which is why I was surprised to see this blood test.

Im posting pictures of the blood tests & vial. You can make your own judgement as to whether or not you wish to buy it or not. I recommend everyone tests the gh they receive, at least once and if possible, with every new batch / order you get.

I usually never eat fast food when training but when I’m not training, I do 

anyone have a go to meal at fast food places?(relatively healthy) 

i usually get

-Wendy’s baked potato or chilli (270 calories each)

- Wendy’s side salad (surprisingly low calorie dressings unlike other places. Low fat ranch 50 calories if I remember correctly, low fat raspberry vinegrette 50 calories if i remember correctly) . 

-mcdonalds grilled chicken snack wrap, no sauce 200 calories) 

-McDonald’s apple slices (40 calories)

-McDonald’s Big Mac no sauce no cheese (370 calories, I usually toss the top bun so it’s 300 calories or so) 

-McDonald’s Canadian bacon/ham McMuffin no cheese or butter (230 calories) 

-Tim Hortons bagel toasted, no butter, sometimes jam or cream cheese (around 300 calories with no spread, depending which bagel)

Sometimes a bit of the more unhealthy stuff 

-McDonald’s frozen yogurt cone (250 calories) 

-Tim Hortons frozen raspberry lemonade (small is 110 calories) 

Cant seem to think of any other things off the top of my head. I usually stay away from fried foods and desserts. 

Best thing that helped my digestion is eating easy digesting food, everyone’s different. For me it was 

protein = egg whites, tuna, protein powder, protein bars

caebs = oatmeal, grits, bananas, carb powder

never really ate fats, I got enough from the oatmeal. They also slow my digestion if I eat too much  

Also taking a digestive enzyme, NOW foods super enzyme. And not drinking water during the meal. Not sure if it helped but I also ate slow (mainly cause the oatmeal was always scorching hot)

I was hungry 1 hour after eating and I was eating quite a bit of food (1000 calories per meal almost, 100-150g oatmeal, 75-90g protein powder or 2cans of tuna, banana). I’d have a protein bar some times too and a pre/post workout shake

I know lots will disagree with protein powder but I used it almost as my only protein source last year and I got better results than I ever have, so I am not going to believe it’s inferior to protein from real food. Also lots of brands of protein are definitely inferior, not going to say the bad ones but I can say for sure optimum nutrition has been the best. Both digestion, mixability, quality and results (pretty confident other brands don’t contain what the label says, judging from the drastically difference in results). 

Also, active8canada.com is in the west end in case you need supplements faster. Fitshop is in Toronto. 

They usually don’t have as great deals but it’s still good. Their regular holiday sale 20% off + 10% cashback credit (on your account). 

21 minutes ago, 3ml said:

Great idea for a thread for supplement users

 

but the only supplement I’ll spend money on is Karbolyn for when I’m running slin

 

money is better spent on Beef and rice imo

I used to use vitargo cause I got it cheap for helping promote a local supplement company. To be honest I noticed no difference when using dextrose a year later

maltodextrin I can drink max 50g in one shake but dextrose I can go up to 100+g. Tastes way better than maltodextrin / vitargo too. 

Althouugh I’ve only tried the dextrose/maltodextrin pre/post. Not intra workout like I was using with vitargo 

just to add add to the thread fitshop.ca always has the cheapest price for optimum nutrition gold standard 5lb. 

They have the same 20-25% off for holidays but they also have an extra multiple quantity discount that stacks. I think it’s an extra 10% for 4 containers or more. Ends up being a tad cheaper than other sites. Doesn’t make a huge difference but it’s practicslly free savings when getting the exact same item 

edit: found the labour day sale email, in attachment below, it’s 25% until midnight on monday

15 minutes ago, Roided said:

Do people really take accutane on cycle? My doctor told me when I was younger that its a last resort (I went on a course of it ) But its definitely not without many side effects so I cant imagine running on gear to be a good idea..I have some pretty bad body acne atm but I dont think its worth running tane I just gotta man up and keep tanning to hide it i guess lol

What sides did you get? I just got really dry skin (cracked lips)

wasnt a big deal, I just drank more water and used lip balm

6 hours ago, OLYMPIC said:

Ima shoot you a pm bro. Glad you still remember our history. You are a good man sir 

I am happy to say I can say the same about you! 

On 8/26/2018 at 3:05 PM, 3ml said:

Wow I’d be extatic with over 500 igf score

were you seeing great results when it was that high

Yeah, i only saw fat burning before they got high

I didn’t get bigger than I have been before on just gear. After I started getting high igf-1 numbers I actually got bigger a lot easier. 

Hgh is defiantly the reason for the physiques today. Too bad the stuff in Canada is always questionable. 

I remember I used gh from Israel in 2017 when I went back to the gym and was actually using regular doses with insane results. Somastim to be exact from sciroxx 

On 8/26/2018 at 4:26 PM, Sorbate said:

I just assumed it would be better.  Fuck I don’t trickle the back water down the side either, just pound up in.  It still works.  I think it’s not as fragile as everyone thinks, just most of the gh is shit.

I did the same thing with peptides (ghrp6 and Cjc no Dac) and it ended up becoming useless. I got so scared I never tried it with the gh cause it’s so expensive 

honestly I leave gh at room temperature just because I use a mini fridge and the temperature sometimes changes. The gh is worth more than the fridge lol 

its good to hear it still works becuase at least you know it’s not a peptide 

7 hours ago, OLYMPIC said:

glad youre on,was waiting for you. I know you can do lots of testing. Great person to deal with. 

 I remember you stood up for me a while back. So I’ll support your forum    

Unfortunately I probably can’t do the testing as much as I did it before. It was fun while it lasted though. I would draw bloods twice with each requisition. I would pretend I told the person at the blood lab to do the hgh test on another day.

So I could get away with hgh tests. 

I’ll be viewing forums from time to time. I’ve been busy for once lol 

3 minutes ago, 3ml said:

Ok just re read it makes sense now

whats the highest igf you got in Norvo ? 

I have to look back but it was when I lowered my aromatase inhibitor. 

I had to get off tren to test my estrogen properly so I just got off everything and went on nolvadex. I actually had high igf levels during the pct. I can’t remeber exactly what I took, I was working with fakhri Mubarak. I think it was nolvadex and hcg. No letrozole or arimidex 

it was 500+ then and afterwards when I went back on cycle it was either 500’s or 600’s. I will go through all my old blood work later tonight or tomorrow. It was 200’s/300’s prior, I thought I just converted gh to less igf1 naturally because it was like that the whole year I was on gh

9 minutes ago, 3ml said:

I don’t understand your post

you said you did a lot of tests on nouveau and then later said you only tested it once

 

 

generally while running GH I would have been on a gram of test, a gram to 1200 eq and 600 mast

adex as needed so maybe 2 x a week

 

nothing crazy that will destroy igf down to nothing

basically the same thing with all tests

but Tap blacks are the only things that really showed to be actual GH close to claims

I meant norvotrop for all the tests in 2014-2016 

i tested neauvotrope once when I was sent a single vial 

On 8/25/2018 at 11:18 AM, 3ml said:

For example 

the best igf number I’ve seen is about 232 and GH serum of 12

that was on some red top generics at 10iu a day On tp blacks 5 iu a day I crept into the low 400s

 

What else were you taking? (Anti e? Nolvadex? Testosterone?) 

i was on norvotrope, did a lot of tests in 2014-2016. Gh serums were anywhere from 8-15. My igf1 was always low until I found out the aromatase inhibiter was causing the low igf levels. In 2014 they tested a lot better (20+ on gh serums). After that’s in 2015 I never got one test over 20+ on the gh serums. They had a batch in the end of 2015/early 2016 that stung when you injected it. Those tested the highest in all of 2015/2016. 

Igf1 was 500+ after I stopped taking so much. 6iu’s twice a day (12ius total). This is because I was trying to use 6ius a day total and I assumed the norvotrope was half of what it said it was so I doubled the dosage. 

everything else I ever tested was fake. I stopped trying after losing a lot of money.

I only tested neauvotrope once and it was a single vial sent to me that tested a lot higher than regular gh. After I was told it’s sold out and a new batch was coming so I didn’t bother cause it could be something completely different

Never bothered posting on forums because everyone just says I’m lying. Whether I say a certain brand of gh is real or fake 

On 8/21/2018 at 4:26 PM, Sorbate said:

so you want me to send a vial?  My kits are not new though, like 5 months or so, but in the freezer the whole time.

I could be wrong but doesn’t gh degrade in the freezer? 

On 8/21/2018 at 4:26 PM, Sorbate said:

so you want me to send a vial?  My kits are not new though, like 5 months or so, but in the freezer the whole time.

I could be wrong but doesn’t gh degrade in the freezer? 

Wow, wish I knew this sooner. I didn’t know the hgh induced release of FFA would last that long.

i thought it was just right after injection