PaulB

Update regarding gains with Tbol (50mg) combined with Test E (600mg) and Deca (300mg), per week - Measurements taken today show that I have gained 4.8 pounds of muscle over the last four weeks, with body fat remaining constant below 9%. Diet and training remained the same.

My primary choice for Tbol was because my last cycle with Dbol was very tough. I blame my arthritis medication (a new biologic) for complicating what worked in the past. My medication plays havoc with my immune system. As an alternative, Tbol is working well, better than anticipated. I attribute its synergistic effects, together with a good diet and a tough program. I feel that this topic introduces a greater issue: compounding gear with new medications. What worked before with few sides may not react the same in conjuntion with the new medication. BP 157? Thanks! Appreciate your thoughtful response.

As a follow-up to my initial post, I added Tbol to an existing cycle of Test E 600 mg and Deca 300 mg per week. This cycle is a longer cycle, 12 weeks into it. Bulking diet is very clean, six meals a day. I am a hard gainer. Training, 4 heavy sessions that last about two hours each. I am over 60 with inflammatory arthritis, and I am very cautious with supplementation due to past history of sides. Adding orals have always been problematic possibly due to conflict with arthritis meds. Tbol implementation as follows: 25 mg per day for two weeks. Notice slight burst of strength during this period. No weight gain. 50 mg per day for two weeks (with plans to continue). Strength up in all exercises. Good pumps. I have also noticed the ability to push a bit harder at the end of each set. Most important, I have gained 3 pounds of muscle over the four weeks while keeping body fat constant. Waist measurement remains below 32. While I am not trying to keep body fat low or waist tight during this phase, that is how my body is responding. Absolutely no sides. Turinabol seems to be working for me. I expect the weight to remain as there is no bloating, water retention.

Things to try in a future cycle. Thanks!

I have noticed when doing research on Turinabol that few in forums have noted the effect that it has on free testosterone when stacking. As a sole substance, it may lack the anabolic punch, but in conjunction with testosterone and deca, for example, it may boost their overall anabolic effect. My current research suggests that Tbol’s synergy together with its anti-estrogen properties makes it a perfect addition to a stack for clean bulking. Thoughts?

I am glad to see this forum up and running. NM provided me with the insight of others. Now I look forward to contributing to the growth of this forum. Thanks for your work.

I am an older bodybuilder who lives with inflammatory arthritis. My condition doesn’t hold me back from continuing to build muscle and stay fit. Former NM member UgoB. I have missed the forum. Glad to see this forum up and running. Thanks! PaulB