Well we can agree to disagree brother. But there are countless articles and studies out there that Overweight people are at a higher risk for estrogen related side effects because their body is already aromatizing testosterone into estrogen at a higher level - so they’re more likely to develop female breast tissue while on the gear, especially test. But I do agree that it can be done right( cutting aas) comes to mind. But why would you bother playing with your hormones when you can first get your diet in check, and get on a solid diet/workout program first. Use the drugs last.
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I would say you shouldn't use gear at all above a certain bodyfat. 1. There are estrogen issues 2. Health issues with bp and cholesterol 3. You aren't dedicated/knowledgeable enough to your diet and training to warrant drugs 4. Something special happens when you go on lean that doesn't happen when you're above 12% and sure as hell doesn't happen if you're 20%+
Yeah man that’s what I’m pretty much saying towards the end of my post that get your diet and routine in check first. Gear last
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Totally get that. I forgot that op said he was 300 pounds at 6 feet tall. I wouldn’t touch aas either at that % level.
I was at 20% last year and was pinning 250/mg of test cyp weekly (I’m also on trt at 100/mg weekly) and aromasin 2x weekly whilst on my “get back into it” recomp. My bloods all came back fine. Probably wouldn’t have at anything higher then that
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Good choice man. Keep it slow and steady, loose skin is going to be a factor later on so by losing only couple pounds per week will help with that big time, healthier and more sustainable.
Lots of good tips here in your thread. Def get that diet fixed up and you’ll be profiting in no time. Lots of online calculators on what your macros should look like, adjust as necessary.
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Keep it up buddy.
I will agree with most opinions in here. The Gear at the moment really isn't needed - get the base down to a T... diet and training. Then when you're at a good spot introduce a light dose of anabolics to further yourself along.
You do not not “need fat to burn fat”. A low-moderate amount of fat is required by the body for overall health and balance, so I 100% agree to make sure you’re getting some in there, but this idea that you need fat to burn fat is cult-like and is not supported in literature (neither is fasted cardio, but that’s a whole other can of worms https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-014-0054-7 ) . I do also agree that your fats are low. Hit up an online macros calculator to get a rough estimate of what you need to eat.NovaFreak said:
You need to find your Total daily energy expenditure and Then put yourself in a 500-750 calorie deficit per day (750 is pushing the upper end, but at that weight and bf% it can be afforded to start). A good place to start would be at 0.8-1g per pound of body weight in grams of protein and 0.3-0.4 grams of fats per pound of weight, the additional calories left over would be carbs. For example (0.8x300=240grams protein, 0.4x 300=120grams fats. 240g x 4cal=960 calories + 120g x 9cal= 1080 calories. Total 2040 calories. Take your total daily energy expenditure less the 500-750 calories, subtract 2040 calories and that number will be your remaining calories. Divide that number by 4 and you have your grams of daily carbs).
You need to be in a caloric deficit to burn fat - plain and simple. Hopefully that makes some sense and points you in the right direction.
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You do not need gear or any supplements.
You need to get a step counter and ensure you take 15,000 steps everyday. This is number one priority.
You need to eat 2,500 calories 6 days a week. This should be a roughly 40:40:20 split. 250g protein, 250g carbs and 55g of fat. You can go up or down a bit on each depending on your sorry preferences but you should be no less than 200g protein. 1 day a week you should eat up to 3,000 calories again minimum 200g of protein.
You need to drink a ton of water, 4L a day.
You need to lift weights hard 5 days a week. That step counter should have a heart rate monitor. You shouldn't go below 140bpm after your first exercise. This means during rest your 140bpm you should be well over this on your 8-10th rep. You should follow a PPL routine and be done your workout in 45-60 mins.
If you feel you still have more to give do cardio after all this.
You need to get a step counter and ensure you take 15,000 steps everyday. This is number one priority.
You need to eat 2,500 calories 6 days a week. This should be a roughly 40:40:20 split. 250g protein, 250g carbs and 55g of fat. You can go up or down a bit on each depending on your sorry preferences but you should be no less than 200g protein. 1 day a week you should eat up to 3,000 calories again minimum 200g of protein.
You need to drink a ton of water, 4L a day.
You need to lift weights hard 5 days a week. That step counter should have a heart rate monitor. You shouldn't go below 140bpm after your first exercise. This means during rest your 140bpm you should be well over this on your 8-10th rep. You should follow a PPL routine and be done your workout in 45-60 mins.
If you feel you still have more to give do cardio after all this.
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What is your goal?
STrength / bulk / cut ? are you running geaer with it?
hard to critique a diet not knwing your goal?
I only exclude bread from my diet and I cut down 6kg from my body in 4 months. Normally working out... thats all. Btw fast cutting of weight is very unhealthy. It can get u all kinds of diseases like diabetis etc.