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@CapeBretonDadBod I am thankful, he def could have banned me you are right. I appreciate the opportunity to defend/redeem myself as best I could. I realize my apporaoch was poor and definitely should have handled it better. It wasn’t my intention to be an asshole but when I do look at it objectively I can see why it rubbed everyone the wrong. I didn’t put enough thought in before I said anything. It was a good learning moment for myself and hopefully other people. So thanks for that

I appreciate that and I did so the mini rules section. I honestly wasn’t my intention to cause a shit storm. I understand approach was shit and would handle far differently now.

I get where you’re coming from and I understand I went about it wrong. I fully admit that but I have done the best to rectify. I understand your angle and rightfully so. I did my best to prove that this isn’t fabricated, that’s all. Totally should have sent an email and I see that for sure now. I just wanted at least a shred of redemption as I tried to right a wrong. Approach was way off but it’s not fabricated. Delete whatever you like. Thanks

This is the best they could give me. @NorthernLifters uncomfortable giving city of hospital location but if I blocked that wouldn’t be credible.

I’m heading to the hospital to get proof my visit right aways. As I stated the first bottle was uncomfortable but I figured it was prop ester and it was livable. The second vial I chalked up to one bad shot, took another and that second shot crippled me. I get where you’re coming from NorthernLifter l, you’re more than valid. I will see what I’m given at the hospital and post it here of proof that I went. I can’t go back in time and follow what you feel is common sense follow up. To me it felt pointless to contact an illegal drug company through an email about a couple vials of gear. Had I had 20 vials of stuff I would have maybe as that’s a decent amount of stuff to toss. I’m trying to take a decent approach to rectify this situation as even though this is an anonymous board I don’t sit well with my integrity being challenged. I do understand why my credibility is questioned but I cannot repeat the situation, all I can do is my best to prove that this is what happened to me. For what it is worth I do now for sure know how to approach a situation regarding UGLs if this was to happen again.

Mast E was from different supplier, no mct oil. I had ordered in April and kept the mast for a prep that I didn’t end up doing so I tacked in onto an off season cycle of test and npp. I explained why I didn’t email the rep. I went to emerg to check for abscess due to pain and flu symptoms. No abscess was found. He said likely an extreme inflammation of the delt. Where are these review rules With the order of operations? I reread the general rules so and didn’t see that so I was unaware. Northernlifters I felt like I explained my logic behind why I did or didn’t do the things I did in a long post. If I was a shill for another lab I wouldn’t have taken anytime to write these long posts. This is why I don’t post in forums, Facebook or anywhere else and just observe. Say one thing in what I perceive as relatively polite and people nail ya to a goddamn cross.

My phone autocorrected. Yes this was my first MCT oil use, so yes that could be entirely true. It def flows way smoother than anything I have used. I have only used Mast E so the prop ester may be more painful as I have found this with deca and npp have noticeably different discomfort. I probably should have emailed the rep first but I explained why I did not feel it would be worth it. The worst thing that could have happened was nothing. So yes you guys are correct. I did email after you guys lit me up on here, which I knew he would have seen anyways as they are a sponsor but I felt it would at least show some integrity on my behalf. Anyways, I didn’t mean to stir the pot

Lol Jesus Murphy. First off I have been a member of this board for awhile as well as the previous board as well. I have been part of several for many years. I observe but rarely post, hence the low post count. Hardly a newb but I can see where that perception comes from. I did not contact the rep immediately. How would he have rectified the issue? He can not assess my injury, more than likely will not refund my money and even if he offered to replace my product I wouldn’t use a company’s product that caused that much of an issue even if it was free. There are multiple credible labs so I decided I wouldn’t use this one again. I also did state that my friend had no issues with test E and that I had used it previously myself. I Still have one bottle of test e but am too reluctant to use it. Sorry jetpilot I did not document my hospital visit, lol. I would have never thought to do that. I have no reason to make that up. It seems ridiculous to ban someone based because I didn’t take pictures and document my visit to emergency. I’m not affiliated with any lab. I have product and empty vials from 3 or 4 different labs at home and I would be happy to take a pic of some of those when I’m at home tonight. Even an empty vial of the mast and the full vial I’m too scared to inject. It’s entirely possible that this was an individual reaction to that specific product, as I said I have used test e several years ago and I was fine. 27 pages of good reviews on one forum is great but it’s not that way on other review forums in case anyone wasn’t aware. One poor review does not make for a bad lab, which I never said biotech was. This was a specific incident that I should be shared. I also highly doubt any good lab would make accounts just to discredit other labs, there are a lot of users out there and plenty of business to go around. I will post pics of gear vials later if jetpilot hasn’t banned me for lack of hospital selfies.

I have used BT before in 2017 and had a good experience with their Test 400. I recently placed an order with them and started to use their masteron prop. I was able to make it through one bottle with very uncomfortable PIP. Once I started using the second one I was getting flu symptoms and very bad PIP. I got so bad that after a delt shot I could not even move my arm. I went to the hospital after 2 days as I felt to ill and unable to use my left arm. It took roughly a week for pain to subside and I was able to train again. I have a bottle of test 400 that im too afraid to even try. A buddy of mine used 4 bottles of the test 400 and didn't have a single issue but I will probably steer clear. I won't be ordering again as it seems to risky given the reaction I had. I have never had anything like this happen before in the last 10 years

I have used their eq and primobolan. Shipping and response time was excellent. First time primo user but I was very happy with results. Good experience for me