Afflicted

Stick around, make friends, do lots of research and most of all ask alot of questions. Every lab I named earlier is good to go with the exception of almere (scamming stuff), and there are a few good ones I never mentioned because I have not personally tried them. You'll find what you are looking for eventually.

1 minute ago, StraightSideways said:

It's a good thing to take this stuff seriously. I was never planning on running his gear because he has very little in the way of reviews vs other labs. The only labs from that forum I'd be interested in are Pareto or PG since their offerings seem to be able to be backed up. It's surprising to me how many people are willing to Inject anything they can get their hands on without doing much research. But hey, to each their own. Everybody is responsible for their own body I guess. 

This response shows me you have probably made a better decision going elsewhere, and you are a smart fellow.

Not offended in the least, but I take these things seriously as there are a lot of sociopaths in the industry and it is easy to see who is who, not saying you or Deus are either, but he doesn't hold a stick to most labs, and his dishonest practice of trying to tell someone unknowing that his generics were blacks fucking pisses me off big time. Anyone that has used real blacks knows they blow any chinese or canadian generic out of the water. Anyhow I've made my point for now.

Also, I do not make things up to benefit myself or hurt these labs. Everything I say on the boards is with facts that I can prove if ever called out. Health of you fuckers is very important to me.

3 hours ago, StraightSideways said:

It's hard to see from the outside. 

 

I can't see any issues on that forum with there brewing process. Did it happen on the previous board? 

He claims to have have been selling his GH from the provider and another source. How did he try to fake it to your friend? 

Seems like he has one bloodwork posted there from a guy with next to no posts, then a recent one from a guy with quite a few, as well as a few amount of anecdotal reviews from members with more posts as well. 

 

Just trying to get the whole picture. Seems like every board has their own agenda and pushes one lab or the other. Pretty easy to see which vets on boards are inclined to push one brand, especially confusing when they happen to be vets/admins on multiple boards with different agendas. Not saying that's you, but I don't see how saying you can create multiple accounts there is a useful point, as anyone can do that on every forum. 

I know about the brewing because I know a mod from there quite well who discussed his application with me. We also both know Deus wasn't on the previous board. He doesn't use geometric dilution or an ungator for his orals. He definitely has not invested in a calibrated digital dispenser for filling, no autoclave, no flow hood, and uses cheap vials and stoppers. Fucking ouch!!!! ENJOY YOUR INFECTION

He has the product listed as BlackTops, not generic black tops if you look at his list. He told my friend they were Back Tops from the provider and to research them on pro muscleforum. He did and also told me about them. First thing i said was ask for pictures, and batch number. Thats when buddy back tracked and said they were from dragon ordinance instead. Cmon man holy fuck, you want me to get my friend to post the fucking emails?!?!

Lets address these members:

Anabolicnorth - only posts in the deus section with 10 posts, his posts are hugely fabricated

King of carbs - paid shill for many labs on that board

Krydakai - very possible an honest review but goes off feels

Dreckis - very possible an honest review but again no bloods

Everyone else - 1-3 posts all in the deus thread, which is 70% of the posts

Bloodwork:

Cuurli 6x multiplier - will give props this is honest bloodwork

SWcurry - bullshit bloodwork, he was banned from genetec because he tried to get credit for using the same blood work, so which lab did he use their test and how much was he really using, guy has 3 posts all i deus, ya right lmfao!!!

Pertaining to your comment about multiple accounts, go make a few there and nothing happens. You do it here, cb or cjm and your ass gets called out by the admins

17 hours ago, Fullblown said:

I definitely do agree with you for most of that. I really do. MY point was that people really do need to be their own judge. I could sit here and read some dude, or girls review and know its bullshit or not. It's very easy to tell who's pushing what products by the tone of their reviews.  I think its important to weed out the bullshit because there is a lot of it out there. Even good well reputable labs every now and again produce a shittier product, whether its raws, dosing, whatever the case. It happens.

As for listening to Vets, I also agree. But not at all vets in my opinion provide good enough reviews. They could easily just be pushing certain products. It's happened before and quite frankly it will always happen bro.

Nonetheless all good points on your account. Some are debatable, and that's good when it comes to jabbing yourself with a potentially unknown product.

It may be easy for you and me to see who's making BS reviews, but for new guys that is not always the case. 

I will also add, all the reviews of this lab are from guys with one post on that piece of shit forum. Anyone can join and make multiple accounts. I'd say maybe one or two reviews are actually legit and the rest are fake ass bullshit. If a lab is doing that, sell fake black tops and using sub par brewing conditions, what do you think is more important, money or end user?

As for Vets recommending labs, I have used Zentec, Medistar, Orion, Almere, Prgressive, Mission, Boss, Nordic Fusion, Newport, Pareto, Genetec, and Innovagen to name a few. I don't tout one lab and guys that do are blatantly obvious. What I am known for is calling out labs like this one that are bullshit, because I'm a long time member of a few forums that actually cares about the guys in these communities. I'm not paid by any lab or board, and not here to make money either. 

Again to OP and anyone that reads about this bullshit lab, there are many, many other WAY BETTER options than Deus. Do you really want to deal with a liar, when there are a fair amount of honest labs out there?

55 minutes ago, Fullblown said:

Personally, I have never heard of them, nor tried obviously. So im definitely neutral in if its a good or poor lab, but either way I am of the mentality that if it's good quality stuff eventually time will tell and the proof will show. Same goes if its a terrible lab with bad quality gear, etc then time will tell.

With labs these days popping up often sometimes its difficult to weed out the bad stuff and it doesn't help when online forums are constantly bashing every individual for what lab they're using, whether its new pop-up or a long time running lab. I think a lot of the reviews on any lab whether good or bad hopefully come from someone YOU trust. If so, don't listen to all the other bullshit that is out there. I've tried brand new labs that have yielded far greater results of those who've been around for some time. Just use your better judgement and make a somewhat informed decision. Really, the only true way to give an honest an open review is to try it yourself, rather than listening to everyone that chimes in because "this lab is the best ever" or "this lab is shit because so and so said so".

You need to be your own judge in that respect. Take it for a grain of salt.

So lying about having authentic products as well lower grade brewing practices are ok? This shit is not made up by the way. Again, lots of great labs to pick from that sell legitimate top grade stuff that WON'T yield a fucking infection, or give you sub par qualities, why the fuck would anyone go with a lab using lower grade equipment and brew practices???

Get to know people here and you'll find there are good quality labs that you can get access to and not take these type of risks. I guarantee this Deus character wouldn't last on other boards including this one with the top grade labs around here. I actually give two fucks about other peoples health and not my wallet so......

I agree you need to be your own judge, but listen to vets who can tell you that how a product is made is as important as every other aspect of the business. Just ask my best friend who had a fucking chunk of muscle extracted because of infection from one of these two bit fucking cheap ass labs.

Here's the truth on this lab. Anyone can sign up and make multiple accounts on that joke of a forum, so he has numerous multiple accounts with one post pumping his budget lab. Believe it or not its a paid board and that lab has been there since the end of October with one bloodwork posted and yet they are a verified lab now ya right lol. They use shit packaging and toppers, and I know for fact their brewing practices are sub par, they don't even use a flow hood! They also tried to scam my buddy selling him fake black tops until my buddy called them out. They don't even give tracking out ffs. If you want a good lab go with one of the reputable labs around, fuck these clowns!

You're 8% bf and you want to shred? Post some pics bro, sounds like you're already shredded at that body fat. Weight and height?

What I see so far, eq at that dose for that long wont do fuck all in my opinion. Up it to at least 600 and run it for 16 weeks. Even at that I find its weak, I like 1200, you'll get something out of it at that in my opinion. Also I don't understand running mast e with Tren ace (different esters) and for only 4 weeks.?

I don't follow Seths videos. Can you elaborate why he recommends those doses for that short of time with different esters? 

Finally its great that you started this thread, but to help you more, pics and stats in a log would be great so we can help you out.

I'm guessing either mig or mct if it flows good through a slin pin

Underground or prescription?

I switched from underground to script, holy fuck what a difference. Canntrust at 25mg 2x a day, the fucking warrior IS BACK!!!! 

Welcome to NL Seattle. Can we assume you are from Seattle?

Good to see you here Newf!

BK Double whopper, cheese and bacon, onion rings and oreo cheesecake

43 minutes ago, DeviousD said:

Not to be rude at all, its merely a question...

Is Primo known to cause PIP? I am 1 vial into some primo 200mg/ml from another lab and its absolutely painfree on its own as well as mixed 1 ml of it with 1 ml of Bodytech's Tritren....zero PIP whatsoever. Absolutely love the Tritren & need to order more of it actually!! 

Primo is known to have pip, especially a 200. 

Hows the PIP on the primo?

I would have apologized profusely......then I would've went and grabbed a 45 off a rack and proceeded to beat this man to death, but hey thats just me.

Theres an old school name I haven't seen in awhile, welcome over Kloan!

Welcome over, this is the new and improved Northern!

Welcome to NL!!!!!

Great topic, thanks Oly! Maybe we can entice a sponsor like Janoshik to join to have vial content testing done as well?

Is blood testing going to be allowed here?

Unfortunately, all the good stuff always plugs up the pin even if I shake the shit out of it

Thanks for this Oly! Who are all you guys recommending for peptides these days? This with 5iu gh, damn thats ULTIMATE!!!!