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57 minutes ago, Ucmerit said:

Never done business with them but i think ill pass an order soon all good comments

Wonderful! Let me know if you need a hand. 

BT is the only product I’ve used since starting! 

#madebybt 

On 8/29/2018 at 8:20 PM, ElectricRocker said:

i hear ya man, im a shift worker with a family as well. Tough to get good sleep these days. But something i do find that helps is a good dose of Medicinal CBD/THC about an hour or so before bed. Heck even just a nice THC gummy will help me sleep like a baby. If you haven't tried any medicinal yet id recommend

It’s the only thing I use for anxiety and ptsd as well as sleep. I have used thc and cbd religiously and notice a huge difference in my sleep, mood, anxiety. I would recommend it highly to anyone (especially the cbd if you dislike the psychoactive properties of thc). 

I msy May have to start a thread on THC/CBD!!

Amino Spiking Info. Muscle Pharm.. Tsk Tsk. 

Mutant is reliable, tasty, love baking with it. 

Love locally owned in Vancouver, Magnum Quattro is high quality. 

Allmax is also reliable and tasty. Good quality.

18 hours ago, OLYMPIC said:

Numbers in this post will be approximate* so we do not further confuse our fellow brothers.
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We have 1 gram (1000 mg) of testosterone enanthate.

Of that 1000mgs, 700mg* is the hormone testosterone, the other 300mg* is an ester called enanthate.

We inject this 1gram into our glute, thigh, delt, trab, lat, pec, bi, tri, calf, hip, forearm, ab, etc.

We now have 1000mg (700mg hormone* and 300mg ester*) in our bodies, BUT the hormone is NOT active while the ester is still attached.

Over the next 10 days* (the approximate half-life of the enanthate ester) 350mg of testosterone (HALF of the original hormone we injected) will be unattached from the ester, allowing the body to use the hormone, therefore making the molecules ACTIVE. This release is done periodically yet semi-steady over the 10 days*. Giving us an AVERAGE* of 35mg of ACTIVE testosterone per day FROM DAY 1!!!!!!!!!!!! (days 1-10)

We now have 350mg* of testosterone left in our body on day 11. But keep in mind it is NOT active. Over the next 10 days*, 175mg* of testosterone (half of the 350mg that is left) will be released from it's ester companion and be activated, ready to be used by the body. AGAIN, this is done periodically over the 10 day period. Giving us an average* of 17.5mgs of active testosterone per day (days 11-20)

It is now day 21 and we now have 175mg of testosterone still attached to an enanthate ester. AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN,this 175mg is NOT active and WILL not be activated until it is released from the enanthate ester. Over the next 10 days*, 87.5mgs (half of the remaining 175mg) of testosterone will be detached from the enathate ester and be used by the body. Giving us an average* of 8.75mgs of ACTIVE testosterone per day (days 21-30)

We are at day 31 and we still have 87.5mg* of testosterone left in our bodies WAITING to be released from its ester and activated, made usable by the body.

This cycle repeats over and over and over until all testosterone hormone has been freed from it's ester friend (in this case enanthate) and used by the body.

There are many different esters. Each ester has a specific half-life AND a specific ester weight making up a specific hormone to ester ratio in your "1 gram" of steroid. In this case with the enanthate, the ratio was 7:3.

By the time you are finished reading this you should have some type of understanding of the esters in testosterone, and now you can go ahead and read on


Testosterone Ester Report

One of the most misunderstood subjects in the world of steroids is the ester--the mechanism by which injectable esterified steroids like testosterone cypionate, testosterone enanthate, and Sustanon work. If you take a quick look around the Internet you will probably find countless articles that consider one form of a steroid far more effective than another. Arguments over the superiority of cypionate to enanthate, or Sustanon to all other testosterones are of course very common. Such arguments are in all practicality, baseless. In this report we'll take an authoritative look at the ester and what specifically it does to a steroid.

WHAT AN ESTER IS, AND HOW IT WORKS

I'm sure that if you have taken an interest in anabolic steroids you have noticed the similarities on the labeling of many drugs. Let's look at testosterone for example. One can find compounds like testosterone cypionate, enanthate, propionate, heptylate; caproate, phenylpropionate, isocaproate, decanoate, acetate, the list goes on and on. In all such cases the parent hormone is testosterone, which had been modified by adding an ester (enanthate, propionate etc.) to its structure. The following question arises: What is the difference between the various esterified versions of testosterone in regards to their use in bodybuilding?

An ester is a chain composed primarily of carbon and hydrogen atoms. This chain is typically attached to the parent steroid hormone at the 17th carbon position (beta orientation), although some compounds do carry esters at position 3 (for the purposes of this article it is not crucial to understand the exact position of the ester). Esterification of an injectable anabolic/androgenic steroid basically accomplishes one thing, it slows the release of the parent steroid from the site of injection. This happens because the ester will notably lower the water solubility of the steroid, and increase its lipid (fat) solubility. This will cause the drug to form a deposit in the muscle tissue, from which it will slowly enter into circulation as it is picked up in small quantities by the blood. Generally, the longer the ester chain, the lower the water solubility of the compound, and the longer it will take to for the full dosage to reach general circulation.

Slowing the release of the parent steroid is a great benefit in steroid medicine, as free testosterone (or other steroid hormones) previously would remain active in the body for a very short period of time (typically hours). This would necessitate an unpleasant daily injection schedule if one wished to maintain a continuous elevation of testosterone (the goal of testosterone replacement therapy). By adding an ester, the patient can visit the doctor as infrequently as once per month for his injection, instead of having to constantly re-administer the drug to achieve a therapeutic effect. Clearly without the use of an ester, therapy with an injectable anabolic/androgen would be much more difficult.

Esterification temporarily deactivates the steroid molecule. With a chain blocking the 17th beta position, binding to the androgen receptor is not possible (it can exert no activity in the body). In order for the compound to become active the ester must therefore first be removed. This automatically occurs once the compound has filtered into blood circulation, where esterase enzymes quickly cleave off (hydrolyze) the ester chain. This will restore the necessary hydroxyl (OH) group at the 17th beta position, enabling the drug to attach to the appropriate receptor. Now and only now will the steroid be able to have an effect on skeletal muscle tissue. You can start to see why considering testosterone cypionate much more potent than enanthate makes little sense, as your muscles are seeing only free testosterone no matter what ester was used to deploy it.

ACTIONS OF DIFFERENT ESTERS

There are many different esters that are used with anabolic/androgenic steroids, but again, they all do basically the same thing. Esters vary only in their ability to reduce a steroid's water solubility. An ester like propionate for example will slow the release of a steroid for a few days, while the duration will be weeks with a decanoate ester. Esters have no effect on the tendency for the parent steroid to convert to estrogen or DHT (dihydrotestosterone: a more potent metabolite) nor will it effect the overall muscle-building potency of the compound. Any differences in results and side effects that may be noted by bodybuilders who have used various esterified versions of the same base steroid are just issues of timing. Testosterone enanthate causes estrogen related problems more readily than Sustanon, simply because with enanthate testosterone levels will peak and trough much sooner (1-2 week release duration as opposed to 3 or 4). Likewise testosterone suspension is the worst in regards to gyno and water bloat because blood hormone levels peak so quickly with this drug. Instead of waiting weeks for testosterone levels to rise to their highest point, here we are at most looking at a couple of days. Given an equal blood level of testosterone, there would be no difference in the rate of aromatization or DHT conversion between different esters. There is simply no mechanism for this to be possible.

There is however one way that we can say an ester does technically effect potency; it is calculated in the steroid weight. The heavier the ester chain, the greater is its percentage of the total weight. In the case of testosterone enanthate for example, 250mg of esterified steroid (testosterone enanthate) is equal to only 180mg of free testosterone. 70mgs out of each 250mg injection is the weight of the ester. If we wanted to be really picky, we could consider enanthate slightly MORE potent than cypionate (I know this goes against popular thinking) as its ester chain contains one less carbon atom (therefore taking up a slightly smaller percentage of total weight). Propionate would of course come out on top of the three, releasing a measurable (but not significant) amount more testosterone per injection than cypionate or enanthate.

IN CONCLUSION

While the advent of esters certainly constitutes an invaluable advance in the field of anabolic steroid medicine, clearly you can see that there is no magic involved here. Esters work in a well-understood and predictable manner, and do not alter the activity of the parent steroid in any way other than to delay its release. Although the lure surrounding various steroid products like testosterone cypionate, Sustanon, Omnadren etc. certainly makes for interesting conversation, realistically it just amounts to misinformation that the athlete would be better off ignoring. Testosterone is testosterone and anyone who is going to tell you one ester form of this (or any) hormone is much better than another one should do a little more research, and a lot less talking.

ESTER PROFILES

Sustanon: The "KING" of testosterone blends.
The four different testosterone esters in this product certainly look appealing to the consumer, there is no denying that. But for the athlete I think it is all just a matter of marketing (Hell, why buy one ester when you can get four?). In clinical situations I can see some strong uses for it. If you were undergoing testosterone replacement therapy for example, you would probably find Sustanon a much more comfortable option than testosterone enanthate. You would need to visit the doctor less frequently for an injection, and blood levels should be more steadily maintained between treatments. But for the bodybuilder who is injecting 4 ampules of Sustanon per week, there is no advantage over other testosterone products. In fact, the high price tag for Sustanon usually makes it a very poor buy in the face of cheaper testosterone enanthate/cypionate. Bodybuilders should probably stop looking at the four ester issue, and stick with totals (Sustanon is just a 250mg testosterone ampule). Were enanthate to be available for say $10 per amp of 250mg, and Sustanon priced nearly double that, buying the Sustanon would be like throwing money away. If you could get nearly double the milligram amount for the same price with enanthate, this is the better product to go with hands down. Leave the high priced stuff for the guys who don't know any better.

Acetate: Chemical Structure C2H4O2.
Also referred to as Acetic Acid; Ethylic acid; Vinegar acid; vinegar; Methanecarboxylic acid. Acetate esters delay the release of a steroid for only a couple of days. Contrary to what you may have read, acetate esters do not increase the tendency for fat removal. Again, there is no known mechanism for it to do so. This ester is used on oral primobolan tablets (metenolone acetate), Finaplix (trenbolone acetate) implant pellets, and occasionally testosterone.

Propionate: Chemical Structure C3H6O2.
Also referred to as Carboxyethane; hydroacrylic acid; Methylacetic acid; Ethylformic acid; Ethanecarboxylic acid; metacetonic acid; pseudoacetic acid; Propionic Acid. Propionate esters will slow the release of a steroid for several days. To keep blood levels from fluctuating greatly, propionate compounds are usually injected two to three times weekly. Testosterone propionate and methandriol dipropionate (two separate propionate esters attached to the parent steroid methandriol) are popular items.

Phenylpropionate: Chemical Structure C9H10O2.
Also referred to as Propionic Acid Phenyl Ester. Phenylpropionate will extend the release of active steroid a few days longer than propionate. To keep blood levels even, injections are given at least twice weekly. Durabolin is the drug most commonly seen with a phenylpropionate ester (nandrolone phenylpropionate), although it is also used with testosterone in Sustanon and Omnadren.

Isocarpoate: Chemical Structure C6H12O2.
Also referred to as Isocaproic Acid; isohexanoate; 4-methylvaleric acid. Isocaproate begins to near enanthate in terms of release. The duration is still shorter, with a notable hormone level being sustained for approximately one week. This ester is used with testosterone in the blended products Sustanon and Omnadren.

Caproate: Chemical Structure C6H12O2.
Also referred to as Hexanoic acid; hexanoate; n-Caproic Acid; n-Hexoic acid; butylacetic acid; pentiformic acid; pentylformic acid; n-hexylic acid; 1-pentanecarboxylic acid; hexoic acid; 1-hexanoic acid; Hexylic acid; Caproic acid. This ester is identical to isocarpoate in terms of atom count and weight, but is laid out slightly different (Isocaproate has a split configuration, difficult to explain here but easy to see on paper). Release duration would be very similar to isocaproate (levels sustained for approximately one weak), perhaps coming slightly closer to enanthate due to its straight chain. Caproate is the slowest releasing ester used in Omnadren, which is why most athletes notice more water retention with this compound.

Enanthate: Chemical Structure C7H14O2.
Also referred to as heptanoic acid; enanthic acid; enanthylic acid; heptylic acid; heptoic acid; Oenanthylic acid; Oenanthic acid. Enanthate is one of the most prominent esters used in steroid manufacture (most commonly seen with testosterone but is also used in other compounds like Primobolan Depot). Enanthate will release a steady (yet fluctuating as all esters are) level of hormone for approximately 10-14 days. Although in medicine enanthate compounds are often injected on a bi-weekly or monthly basis, athletes will inject at least weekly to help maintain a uniform blood level.

Cypionate: Chemical Structure C8H14O2.
Also referred to as Cyclopentylpropionic acid, cyclopentylpropionate. Cypionate is a very popular ester here in the U.S., although it is scarcely found outside this region. Its release duration is almost identical to enanthate (10-14 days), and the two are likewise thought to be interchangeable in U.S. medicine. Althletes commonly hold the belief than cypionate is more powerful than enanthate, although realistically there is little difference between the two. The enanthate ester is in fact slightly smaller than cypionate, and it therefore releases a small (perhaps a few milligrams) amount of steroid more in comparison.

Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2.
Also referred to as decanoic acid; capric acid; caprinic acid; decylic acid, Nonanecarboxylic acid. The Decanoate ester is most commonly used with the hormone nandrolone (as in Deca-Durabolin) and is found in virtually all corners of the world. Testosterone decanoate is also the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with Decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month, although most recently we are finding that levels seem to drop significantly after two weeks. To keep blood levels more uniform, athletes (as they have always known to do) will follow a weekly injection schedule.

Undecylenate: Chemical Structure C11H20O2.
Also referred to as Undecylenic acid; Hendecenoic acid; Undecenoic acid. This ester is very similar to decanoate, containing only one carbon atom more. Its release duration is likewise very similar (approximately 2-3 weeks), perhaps extending a day or so past that seen with decanoate. Undecylenate seems to be exclusive to the veterinary preparation Equipoise (boldenone undecylenate), although there is no reason it would not work well in human-use preparations (Equipoise certainly works fine for athletes). Again, weekly injections are most common.

Undecanoate: Chemical Structure C11H22O2.
Also referred to as Undecanoic Acid; 1-Decanecarboxylic acid; Hendecanoic acid; Undecylic acid. Undecanoate is not a commonly found ester, and only appears to be used in the nandrolone preparation Dynabolan, and oral testosterone undecanoate (Andriol). Since this ester is chemically very similar to undecylenate (it is only 2 hydrogen atoms larger), it has a similar release duration (approximately 2-3 weeks). Although this ester is used in the oral preparation Andriol, there is no reason to believe it carries any properties unique of other esters. Andriol in fact works very poorly at delivering testosterone, bolstering the idea that oral administration is not the idea use of esterified androgens.

Laurate: Chemical structure C12H24O2.
Also referred to as Dodecanoic acid, laurostearic acid, duodecyclic acid, 1-undecanecarboxylic acid, and dodecoic acid. Laurate is the longest releasing ester used in commercial steroid production, although longer acting esters do exist. Its release duration would be closer to one month than the other esters listed above, although realistically we are probably to expect a notable drop in hormone level after the third week. Laurate is exclusively found in the veterinary nandrolone preparation Laurabolin, perhaps seen as slightly advantageous over a decanoate ester due to a less frequent injection schedule. Again athletes will most commonly inject this drug weekly, no doubt in part due to its low strength (25mg/ml or 50mg/ml).



It took me awhile to write this and I hope now you may have a better understanding of the testosterone esters and how they work. Remember knowledge is POWER

GREAT article. 

This is incredibly important for women to understand how different esters work in the body, and for how long. Testosterone for women can be excellent, so understanding how it works so she can match her cycle and know how much to use and when is highly beneficial! 

Great article, I will be re sharing in the womens section as well if thats ok Oly!

On 8/20/2018 at 4:00 AM, Afflicted said:

I haven't tried mutant. Everyone I know recommended iso gold from Pvl but I found it bloated the shit out of me. I'll have to give this stuff a whirl.

Most likely you have a problem digesting milk sugars. Give Quattro by Magnum a try, they are completely lactose free. 

Not sure why all whey companies dont do this, remove the milk sugar. Most people have a hard time digesting any dairy product.

On 8/15/2018 at 3:47 PM, OLYMPIC said:

 

 

Contest Prep

by Allen Cress

 

There are many people out there who call themselves bodybuilders, but in my opinion, unless you have attempted to take the stage at least once in your life, you are just a weightlifter. There is a big difference between having a physique with some visible abs that looks good on the beach and the body that you see in competition, with striated glutes, paper-thin skin, and veins like you’d see in an anatomy chart. Many have attempted to step on stage, and many have failed. In my mind, that’s what separates a wannabe bodybuilder from the real deal.

 

Bodybuilding isn’t for everyone, and for some it just isn’t in the cards due to body structure and genetics. You don’t necessarily need to have superior genetics like Jay Cutler to compete, but contest prep does require discipline, hard work, consistency, and the drive to do what it takes to get results. At the end of the day, genetics (and the judges) may determine the on-stage winner; however, the fact that you may not receive a trophy doesn’t mean you are not a personal winner as long as you did everything possible to be your best on that day. As I tell my clients, if you enjoy the process and the challenge, then you have already won.

 

Where do you start? One general recommendation I make is to hire qualified help. Even with the information in this article, which is written in a general format, there are too many individual differences among potential competitors that must be addressed. An expert will be able to hone in on your particular body and how it works, and then will be able to apply tried-and-true principles to achieve specific results while avoiding the traps and pitfalls that can occur during contest prep. Also, a professional will provide an objective viewpoint and will be able to help you keep your mind on the right path; as the diet progresses, it becomes as much a mental challenge for some as a physical one.

 

The Diet:

A lot of bodybuilders believe there is only one single process to follow to get ready for a show. Most pick a certain number of weeks before the show to start dieting, usually 12-16 at minimum, and then just gradually drop their calories as the show gets closer. How early you should start your diet depends on your current condition and how much fat you are carrying. A good rule of thumb is to give yourself one week for every percentage point of body fat. Therefore, if you have roughly 12% body fat, start at 12 weeks out; if you are over 16% body fat, start at 20 weeks out.

 

There are also many bodybuilders who still follow outdated and useless practices during prep such as carb depleting and then reloading the week before the show; all that does is risk damage to the physique. I like to use methods that are based more on science and in-the-trenches experience and not merely on tradition. Always plan extra time for contest prep to ensure optimum fat loss and retention of muscle mass. Specifically, you want to maintain a relative calorie deficit rather than an absolute calorie deficit (an important point I learned from Scott Abel). The reason for this is that in an absolute calorie deficit, an athlete can and almost always will lose muscle mass, which we would prefer to avoid at all costs. In an absolute caloric deficit, the body will be more stubborn about giving up fat because it is in starvation mode, which is roughly 750-1000 calories below an individuals BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate). In this state, the metabolism will protect fat storage at the expense of muscle in order to maintain energy expenditure.

 

For any diet, and especially for contest diets, a better approach is to use a relative caloric deficit in which an individual begins the diet at or near his normal BMR, which is the rate at which the body burns calories while at rest. Once the BMR has been established, the diet begins. There are various methods that can be used to prepare for a contest…the particular approach all depends on a person’s current needs state, how they have been eating up to that point, and their current condition. Some of these methods are: 1) staggering calories (one of my favorite methods), 2) carb cycling, or just a 3) a steady-state approach at or near the BMR, while introducing fat burning activities (such as a structured training program and cardio) to create a fat-burning machine rather than a fat-storing machine.

 

So how do we figure out a person’s BMR? There are some good equations out there, but to keep things simple, just take your bodyweight times 12 or 14 if you are in decent shape (below 14% body fat) or your body weight times 10 if you are on the fatter side (above 15%). Next, subtract 300-500 calories from that number, depending on how much fat you have to lose. There are several factors that influence the BMR, including gender, hormonal levels, age, height, and background. Therefore, it would be useful to have a record of a few days worth of eating in order to poinpoint an individual’s current caloric intake and how closely it matches their calculated BMR. Once calorie consumption is assessed, then we proceed to choosing an appropriate diet strategy. I recommend breaking the calories up into five, six, or even seven evenly spaced meals throughout the day. In this way, the body is more easily able to process smaller amounts of food efficiently and to keep insulin levels steady.

 

Once the general eating strategy is set, it is then necessary to structure the diet in terms of fat, carb, and protein percentages. One point I want to get across immediately is that in a calorie deficit (as in a pre-contest diet), there will be no predisposition for your body to store fat from ANY energy source (carbs, fat, or protein). Therefore, when dieting, don’t be concerned that a certain energy source may make you fat (the usual targeted source is carbs); instead, focus your sights on determining the best strategy to optimize fat loss while insuring retention of your hard earned muscle. Carbs and fats are the protein-sparing energy sources– enough of these must be present in a diet so that protein can be used to build and rebuild tissue. If not, the body will use protein for the production of energy at the expense of rebuilding tissue.

 

A word on carbs: Carbs are not the enemy, but too much insulin may be a problem when trying to get ripped on a diet. The problem is that too much insulin and too little insulin can both result in feelings of hunger. Therefore, to control insulin levels, we should monitor physiological feedback after meals. If there is too much insulin, the body feels tired and the mind sluggish. If insulin is low, the body feels hungry, but focus and concentration remain clear. Finding a balance between these two situations then becomes a matter of tweaking the meals during a diet. Someone who feels tired and lethargic after a meal may be consuming too many calories at that particular meal. If he feels hungry, but is still focused and alert, then his body is in a fat burning mode. As time goes on most bodybuilders get used to the hunger…it’s just part of a typical contest prep!

 

Getting back to macronutrients, how do we decide the ratios of proteins, carbs, and fats? As an example, let’s take a 200-lb client. Protein needs would be roughly 275 grams, as I like to keep protein around 45-50% of total calorie intake during contest diets. Because his BMR would be around 2400 calories, according to our calculations, I would recommend that 50% of that should consist of 300 grams of protein (just take 2400, multiply by .50, then divide by 4). Now there are 1200 calories left to divide between carbs and fat. Using a carb-based diet as an example, I would keep carbs at 35-40% and fat at 10-15%. I have gotten many competitors into ripped contest condition using this model. In terms of fat loss, you should monitor bodyweight and the image in the mirror each week (the mirror will always overrule the scale weight) as well as your body’s feedback on hunger, focus, energy levels, etc.. Remember, this is one of many possible ways to diet for a contest, and it always comes down to an individual’s physiology. This is one of the best parts of what I do–manipulate and coax the body to come in shredded and watch it all unfold in front of me.

 

Also keep in mind that if the body is in a fat burning mode, water intake needs to be increased as well. During diet periods, more body fluids will be lost and replenishment becomes crucial. Proper fluid replenishment and electrolyte balance is important at this stage to maintain cell integrity and intracellular water levels. Therefore, sodium ingestion should also be kept quite high through the whole prep by using sea salt and certain condiments.

 

After you have taken all of these variables into consideration and have set a plan into action, you can then and only then look for other factors that may influence performance. Finding the right training protocol and minimizing stress levels are factors outside of the diet that can contribute positively or negatively to performance. The others, of course, are supplements and drugs. Too many readers already rely too heavily on pharmacological influences so I will not go into that subject. However, supplements can be put to use in pre-contest dieting. Products are called “supplements” for a reason–they supplement diet and training, but they do not take the place of them. Supplements exist to aid the process of fat loss and muscle retention but they will not replace bad training, coaching, or dieting, and will not fix what is wrong with your overall protocol.

 

Cardio:

When it comes to cardio, the more fat you have to lose, the more cardio you may need to do. Keep your cardio sessions at 25-45 minutes; longer sessions will cost you hard earned muscle. If you have a lot of fat to lose, the key is to start cardio at the same time as you start dieting. The problem most competitors have is that they tend to throw the kitchen sink at themselves from the start, whether it be cardio or diet. If you start out at six 1-hour sessions per day and plateau at eight weeks left, where do you go from there? Yes, you would initially lose a lot of weight, but once you hit that plateau, you have no option but to go to extremes. Two sessions per day on top of workouts? You want bodybuilding to add something positive to your life, not consume your life. Furthermore, if you go to these extremes, the after-effects once the contest is over could be dangerous, and this is something you want to avoid as much as possible. So you want to get the most out of the least when it comes to cardio—add it only when needed. I would not recommend you start with more than three sessions a week at 30 min each unless you are completely out of shape.

 

Keep your cardio at an easy-to-maintain pace. The rule of thumb is that you should be able to maintain a conversation but still build up a sweat. You are a bodybuilder, not a runner; save the high intensity stuff for your workouts and keep cardio at a comfortable level. Now I know some individuals like HITT, but for the most part, once you are a month or so into contest prep, you will more than likely end up burning off muscle with this approach. If you want to do it for the first few weeks, that’s good, just be cautious. The time of day at which you do your cardio depends on your lifestyle and other factors. Forget this idea that “first thing in the morning on empty stomach” is absolutely necessary. That may be the absolute best-case scenario, but if you don’t have a good bike or treadmill at home, and you need to drive to the gym or you do your cardio after training, it’ll be fine. Don’t sweat the small details, just maintain consistency with your diet and training program.

 

First of all, I want to point out that if you didn’t put in the hard work and a good plan to get ripped ahead of time, then no amount of water manipulation, fat loading, or carb loading is going to work in the end. I often hear competitors say that they were just holding water—no, you were just not lean enough, period! If you are shredded, then proper loading can help you to look fuller and dryer in order to present the best package possible on stage.

What you do with your water intake depends on how you will be peaking. If you carb load, water manipulation will have to be different than if you fat load. For carb loading, you need to know that carbs require roughly three grams of water for one gram of carbs in order to load into the muscle cell. For simplicity, let’s say you are loading 400 grams of carbs, which would require 1200 grams of water to load into the muscle. To help with drying out, instead of taking in 1200 g of water, you take in 700 g of water. The body will take the rest of the water needed from its subcutaneous stores. Unless a client needs to make weight, we would typically start loading on Wednesday (Saturday being the contest day) and taper on Thursday; that way, we have some wiggle room for adjustments come Friday and Saturday, depending on how the client is looking. Therefore, you should decrease water as you decrease carb intake, but you should never completely cut water if you are just carb loading. Also, when you carb load you should use carb sources such as potatoes, rice, oatmeal, and rice cakes and not simple sugars. All those will do is cause bloating and water retention.

 

Another method, and one I use more often, is fat loading. Carb loading can work and work well for an individual with a higher metabolism, but for those more sensitive to carbs, it may be much harder to peak and keep water under control. Instead, fat loading can be done by increasing calories on Wednesday and Thursday (using good fats such as natural peanut butter, whole eggs, olive oil, and red meat) with minimal carbs at a couple of meals as well as keeping water intake low on the day of the show.

 

Alternatively, this can also be accomplished by taking in simple sugars along with very high fat foods using the correct timing. I learned this method when working with Scott Abel. You must cut out water completely for this approach to work, usually around 12 hours or so before the contest, in order to get rid of the little interstitial water you may have and to make room for fat loading. But first, before you cut your water, you need to take in as much water as you can starting on Tuesday and leading up to Friday. This will send the message to your body to turn off ADH (anti-diuretic hormone), which will ensure that you will continue to lose water even after you stop taking in fluids. Tapering off your fluid intake with this method is a huge mistake because that is what turns on ADH; as less water comes into your body, it responds by trying to hold and store its own water. The result is unwanted water retention. A good rule is that if you are on point conditioning-wise, you shouldn’t need to dehydrate for more than about 20 hours max. You should use foods such as prime rib, fries, cheesecake, nuts, pancakes, and even candy bars along with regular diet foods. If you are plenty dehydrated, after prejudging is over, then a diet soda or two will help fill out the muscles. Just make sure you have them between meals and not WITH your meals, and only have them if you look like you are getting flat. Remember, timing is everything.

Now if you are a novice and you are ripped and ready to go but are unsure about the peaking methods, don’t change a thing…if it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it!. Don’t take a chance (as so many bodybuilders do at the last minute) if you truly don’t know what you are doing. To take months to prepare for a contest and then risk it all by trying methods you have no experience with is just not worth it. Fat loading and carb loading both work and work well, but they are not foolproof. This is where expert advice comes into play.

 

So, to sum it all up, here are the take-home points:

• Determine your timeline (err on the side of longer).

• Select your diet approach.

• Listen to your body and be objective (which is harder than you may think).

• Add in cardio only when needed.

• Be ready at least 1- 2 weeks prior to the contest.

• Don’t use ANY peaking method if you don’t know what you are doing.

• Don’t go to extremes. No contest is worth screwing up your body.

• Work hard and be consistent!

The best advice I can give is to hire a coach to guide you on this journey. It takes all the stress out of the process, and you will also learn things along the way. No two contest preps are ever the same, and prep even shifts from contest to contest as your body changes. A good coach will assess how your body works and will know when to make changes based on your feedback. Good luck and get yourself up on that stage!

Great article for women considering competing. It's a whole other ball game  If any ladies here have questions about it fire them my way! My last show was Van Pro this year. Come check out the womens section as well, we are sure to cover contest prep questions there as well!!

Thanks Oly for the information!

I totally agree with the fat loading approach opposed to necessarily just carbs! Ive noticed this several times for myself. Very dependant on the woman but most women are carb sensitive depending on how her off season went and how ridiculous her coach is lol.. in all honesty though if you have worked with a great coach in the off season your tolerance to carbs will be better, hopefully, in contest. Only way to know this is to take your off seasons just as serious and play with your macros. On season is not the time to be guessing. 

I notice he mentions Scott Abel, awesome as he has great nutritional info out there with cycling carbs. 

Really great article. 

 

1 hour ago, Crazyguy said:

Btboss said he’s still taking orders

 

Yes! He is. All up and running smoothly. Glad everyone is up and running getting their orders

2 hours ago, Rockabilly_barbie said:

Hey all!  I was a member on NM for about 1.5yrs. Found this forum thanks to my girl msclmama. Been competing for the last 3yrs, so still new onto bodybuilding and AAS. I’ve used my fair share, so hopefully I can be of some use for other women looking for information. 

Welcome to the new board! Glad to have you here!! 

Howdy Newf

10 minutes ago, musclebeauty said:

Lol love the shirt that rocks girl its so great to have to aboard and you look incredible...

Iron Sisters unite!!

Hi Everyone!

Just wanted to take some time to formally introduce myself! Old member on NM (younggunz). I’ve neen with BT for the last 5 years. I have posted a new log, and will continue to post there for those updates. 

My bsckground is women’s bodybuilding, if you’d like to see me a little more I placed 2nd at the Van Pro is WBB. First international show for me! It was a blast! I have an extensive competitive history and am active in the Bodybuilding community.

After retiring from the military I now work as an Athletic Therapist and personal trainer. 

Looking forward to sharing recipes, and talking about women’s health and AAS use. I have been doing protocols for women with BTs products for the last 5 years. As well as helping women understand their own body and gear use. I’ll do my absolute best to bring whatever knowledge I have and hopefully bring more and more women to the board. Be prepared lads! Lol! The She-Beasts are here

Thanks 

xo

- msclmama 

16 minutes ago, Crazyguy said:

Pardon me perhaps a poor choice in satire on my part

Not at all  But I do want women who may read it and understand I didn’t start out that high. It’s a slow gradual increase. I feel very good at that amount!! 

I’ll be starting my first cycle with peptides! Popping my peptide cherry! Lol! I’ll be writing an in detail report of how it goes!! Very excited  

Hey guys!

listed below in the picture is my recipe for protein muffins. Super easy, be creative! Use in season fruit; Here I used pumpkin purée for a nice fall flavour! Big fav in my house! 

Alwats be cautious when baking with whey that you have enough wet to dry. Too much dry will turn your muffin spongey instead of moist.

I used a mix (product picture below) that is only made of brown rice flour, or coconut flour. Much healthier alternatives. Doesn’t bug digestion as much. 

I add mini chocolate chips (my kiddo loves them) and I put 100g of protein and made 8 muffins. Not bad macro wise!

- msclmama 

3 minutes ago, Crazyguy said:

Lol I currently am, the most I’ve done is 400mg test pw thinking of upping to 500 soonish

So you are using more then me  I am only using 250mg a week. And it has taken me years to build up to that, also multiple blood tests over the years to see what my personal test levels are.

Here nor there. 

As s a review of the product I really love each one I listed above. In small doses! 

3 minutes ago, Crazyguy said:

Jesus intake more juice then me.

Intake is relevant to the user and their biochemistry. What’s a lot for one person isn’t a lot for another. Honestly compared to men’s cycles it’s 1/4th of what most men use. 

Perhaps you need to re think your cycle  Mine seems to be working great!

Hey Everyone!

Id like to share my last few cycles as a lady that uses BT.

As I have mentioned previously, I have used ONLY BT for 5 years. I’ve never used any other product. 

My on season for the Van Pro;(placing second at my first international show).

I personally found I could use more while in prep than I can now. I am very sensitive to anything off season opposed to when I am in prep.

On Season (each has varied for each show)  I did two shows back to back for this cycle.

Test E 250 = 250mg once per week 

I prefer Enanthate as I do find for women it keeps the hormone levels steadier. No huge dips or spikes (things we need to consider ex time of when your usual menstruatal cycle begins and ends even if you do not have one, take note as timing of your testosterone can really help).

Mast E starting the first week at 20, bumping each week by 10 up to 60. Remained at 60 until the show. 

- Loved the size I got from Mast even while on a big caloric deficit and high intense cardio. I was also full keto. So Mast for me really helped keep my size. I’ll akways now use this. 

Do note - I am an FBB. I am 168 at 5’2.

This is not a cycle for Figure or even WP. 

Tren E - 20mg once a week 

- How does one even get that little into a pin? Lol! It’s very small but trust me, ladies we really don’t need much. Ever woman will differ but as we know Tren is not for the faint of heart. Only experienced ladies should dip into this one. I DO love the results on very small amounts of Tren and will use it only for the last 4 weeks of this prep to harden my appearance.Which it did!

Orals:

1mg Adex ED

(This really helped keep any estrogen at bay, and trust me when I tell you I can feel it when I don’t take it). 

40mg Anavar 

20mg Win 

12 week cycle 

Liver came back fine after blood testing as well. 

Off Season Current Stack

Test E 250-300; Bumping bi weekly to see how I feel. 

Anavar 30mg, bumping up weekly to hopefully 60. Depending how I feel and any side effects.

I have detailed logs from each year of prep using only BT products.

While I have watched other women terribly destroy their bodies using bunk gear, I have been able to use cycles year after year and have zero issues! That truly says ALOT for a product! 

If you guys guys have any questions for ladies and hear, both myself and muscle beauty have some great experience using BT! 

- msclmama 

Still receiving emails from a fake BT account. So just a heads up!

Wonderful article! I whole heartedly agree that HRT for women can be incredible if done properly! I have for 5 years and I’ll never come off low dosing of Test! 

Anavar is by far the best oral or best drug period for women to use imo. As stated, uts the safest less androgenic AAS you’ll find that relatively if used properly can have less sides for women. 

I have been running BTs Anavar for 5 years. Nothing but positive results. This is my go to no matter how big I am - It’s always consistent. Always the best for me to use; The sides are minimal but depending on the woman ALWAYS so please do note there can be sides like voice drop which if you are taking 20mg or less it tends to go away once you stop your cycle. For some, it may stay that way but generally only if you are using testosterone will it actually start to thicken your vocal chords (which by the way I practise singing octaves so my vocal chords still get use to hitting the higher octaves) and even though I’ve used harder AAS thankfullu my voice is still very feminine. 

May, or will, experience hair growth but let’s face it every woman does so it’s just a matter of what that woman’s comfort level is.

MORE DOES NOT MEAN BETTER for women. I can’t stress that enough.

Although the safest AAS on the market please don’t just pop your girl a pill and go. 

Taper up! Monitor! Taper down! 

We have waaaay more hormonal fluctuations than men and suddenly on too high or suddenly off can really create terrible fluctuations of her progesterone/estrogen and of course Test. So don’t just pass your girl a pill and go! Half tab, hell.. split it in 4.

I would love to see a product specifically made for women of Anavar at 10mg dosing. And then Anavar for the heavy user at 50 (let’s say for men). 

20s aren’t doing much for anyone. Men like it higher, women like it lower. Splitting you don’t REALLY know you are just trying to make an estimated guess. 

Thanks! 

- msclmama 

I use Test E weekly and have for years. 

Ill write more about my personal experience with essentially is HRT, and how beneficial it can be for women - on my phone right now and that will take some typing! I’ll be back to write up my personal story with Testosterone! Nothing but mainly positives!

I would agree with MuscleBeauty here! Oral primo 10-5 starting and run that for awhile at that dosing. Biggest mistake is women up their dosing too quickly not realizing g some best gains at lower dosing is the best option for less androgenic sides. 

Primo is a great option for women! Injectable I would start off again lower dose at 20-40mg and stay there and monitor how the woman does.

Rule of thumb for women and dosing; start at the loosest possible dosing and slowly taper up depending on how that woman specifically reacts.

Women don’t have “fudge room” like men do, so choosing MGs is very personal to the woman and her biochemistry  

Primo is great, only had great results from using it (of course I only use BT products and have for 6 years). Truly liked the lean mass and look I have when using it. 

Hi there! 

I have a  s a vast amount of experience with BTs Masteron specifically.

I really like it personally! I would highly recommend women starting out no where near the men’s MG dosing. Start off low (like any compound), of 20-30mg very small. See how you feel/react after doing two shots of 20-30 and bump accordingly to how you are feeling. 

I do oddly notice personally I can take a higher anoint in season than off (which may be a total personal thing but good to note). In off season I can’t do more than 40-60mg and that’s taken a few years of using it and allowing my body time with it. I did note when I would go up that my hair line would thin but that is also a generic response but again something to note. 

I really loved how quickly the size would come on for me using Mast. It’s my go to other than Primo. 

Its not not for beginners. Wouldn’t recommend women using it unless they are wanting the size of WP or B.B. I wouldn’t recommend this to figure gals, in my opinion there are other compounds before trying Mast.

I do like personally using Mast and Test together and generally I’ll pnly use these two to run a cycle for injectables.

- msclmama 

Yum! Ill be making these! I use my food processor or ninja and use a handful of dates for a gooey texture. I also really like to bake with mutant or magnum protein (Magnum is at least lactose free)

YUM! Ill have to post my fav recipes!! 

Hi Eazy57!

And thank you, ElectricRocker! I use to write often on NM, but usually private messages. 

Eazy, if you would like to ask questions here or private please feel free to message me. I’ll be getting a few discussions up and running with gebetal information or just ask questions right here. As the site grows I can assume more and more discussions and questions will arise.

I look forward to helping in any way I can to help guide women as best as possible! There is just not enough information for women who want to do this, and if so.. HOW!!  

I always give the best information I can on each topic, I always recheck my references and give real life studies with several women, women using specifically BT, and women of all different sizes and goals. 

Ask away, or message! And I’ll get some topics up and rolling!!

*msclmama