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1 hour ago, Shelbysdad said:

Mk is not expensive, might as well try it. Most who try it like it. It may not be exogenous HGH, but increases your endogenous HGH to a level equivalent to 2-3 IU's of exogenous HGH according to some blood work I have seen. Personally I have never used HGH, I cannot justify spending that kind of money on something that may be fake. I have used mk677 two times. I am on it now, I get better pumps and muscles look fuller, for the price I pay I will do it for life. I buy the raws and it is so cheap that way, can't go wrong

I buy the raws as well. Definitely cheaper option. Been on mk677 almost a year now. Going to take a break at the 1 year mark. Love the stuff!

Welcome to the party!

Labmax. It worked, for like you said, the presence of a hormone. Will use the test again for sure.

4 hours ago, Shelbysdad said:

It would depend on your liver health, your oral dosage, which oral you used and the duration of oral use. Also maybe if you drink a bit sometimes etc. It will probably be somewhat different for everyone

+1

I've had alt and ast stay above norm for about 2 months after a heavy cycle with orals at the start and finish. But back then, there was no tudca. That stuff is magic. 750mg a day will drop anyones liver values.

I use Canada Protein for my citrullene malate and AKG, as well as their creatine and glutamine. I mix up my own pre workouts.... 

Glutes and delts for me. 

 The reason i always drag out the Palumbo vid is everytime i'd do a quad injection, i'd hit a nerve and twitch like a mofo. I'd usually end up instinctively pulling the pin out.... quads were never good for me. But, each to their own. 

This is my fave reply to this subject... those that have seen me post it before, carry on.

My 2cents.... subq with oil sucks! Gave it a good go, even with .25 ml a shot, (with pharma enanthate) got red painful lumps that would stick around for two weeks! 

I have noticed that a certain lab has a very thin product that would probably absorb better, but for me only water based products get subq'ed on me.

Btw, RIP Dr.John Crisler, your knowledge and advocacy will be missed.

Primo ace is awesome. I get raws from overseas and batch up 25mg caps. I'm 215lbs so i dose from 100 ramping up to 200mg ed. The shit is amazing, you do have to use lots, it is expensive.... but absolutely no liver toxicity ( bloods taken during), and you can feel it working after the first day; pumps. Then shortly after the veins come on, then the strength boost. MB, you'll love it! 

I haven't used the particular peps you described, but i now use canada peptide exclusively for my research activities. All their products have been good to go for me. Tb-500, bpc157, cjc 1295, frag 176-191.  

I take 8mg cialis daily. Supposedly helps with hpb and high blood pressure. I take it as part of my preworkout/ pump "booster", among other things.  I don't have a problem pissing either. 

 Saw palmetto and pumpkin seed oil are natural dht blockers as well. 

Welcome!

2 hours ago, strongmanmike said:

So what is the half life of this compound? Looks interesting but wondering the frequency of use. 

It's tied to a cypionate ester. Half life somewhere around 8 days or so. I'm on an every 4th day schedule.

Please someone correct me if i'm wrong about the half life.

1 hour ago, eazy57 said:

I'm just researching this compound now. Sounds very interesting. Are there more people's experiences with DHB? What doses are people taking weekly, dosing schedule etc?

I personally prefer the slower acting "drier" compounds. Running longer cycles in the 16 to 20 week range gives me the desired look. 

I've been running BT's dhb at 300mg per week along with 500mg sustanon and 50mg proviron ed. Into my 5/6 week and believe me the dhb is outshining the sust. 

 Kinda primo/ eq-ish in effects. Getting really vascular and actually starting to see some striations in my delts and legs (been eating clean though and lots of cardio). Usually the sust will wash out my veins and "water me out", but so far it seems to be a good combo for me.

 Gained 7 pounds so far, but have leaned out quite a bit as well, so hard to say exactly how much really gained so far. 

The last couple weeks i have been waking up just drenched in sweat.... so somethings going on there, not normal. No other real sides to speak of, as i always keep my dosing of aas on the lower side of things, just to mitigate any negative sides. 

Planning on running cycle for 12-16 weeks, depends when i get sick of pinning....

Welcome aboard!

But make no mistake.... i'm gonna try gene's dhb out for sure!

8 minutes ago, GenetecResearch said:

What specific ingredients do you want listed on the label?

What i like to see is the types of preservatives, solvents and carrier oil. 

Eg. 250ml test enanthate, bb, ba, in cottonseed oil

No need for volumes, but some labs do put their % of bb, ba, eo. Not neccessary though. 

33 minutes ago, NorthernLifters said:

Im not sure, I'm on both professional muscle and bop and all the huge labs from sciroxx to ppl etc could never make it at 100 mg without guiacol. I'm sure they tried eo and many other methods before other labs here tried, seeing that Canada has only as of recent jumped on the dhb bandwagon. As of now we don't have a make up of genetec. I'm sure he has it listed on his ingredient list. He'll chime in eventually. I do hope genetec becomes the first lab to do what all labs failed it. Would put Canada on the map lol. 

This is true. When i jab the dhb with guiacol, i instantly taste it and smell it internally. Kinda nasty. Plus if even a drop hits the counter or floor when i'm working the air out, it takes some serious disinfectant to get rid of the smell.

Would be nice to have a no pip product without the quiac . 

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1 hour ago, bebeav said:

I'm pretty sure it can be done without them and without crashing using the proper method.
 

I've heard of some labs using EO as a solvent as well.

Honestly bud, being a cypionate ester, you probably won't notice any real strength increase for up to two weeks. 

I'm on another labs dhb at the moment and just passed the 4 week mark, strength is definitely coming on. At two weeks started noticing vascularity like crazy. 

 I'm glad another reputable lab has brought this to market. Is there guaiacol in gene's dhb?

10 hours ago, StraightSideways said:

Welcome PPL. 

Seen you guys on basically every forum for a long time now. Interesting to see you guys are doing Canada domestic now. 

They are? Canadian domestic? That would be fantastic.

Welcome

Yes, would be nice to know the purity of the chemical. If you do a search "rad 140 liver toxic", more than a couple articles come up on google.

 As far as liver stress, i don't drink. Live like a monk mostly (no chastity!). Chicken, rice and salad for most main meals... 

I have some genetec  and vortex proviron. So far only used the genetec stuff @ 25MG daily. Been feeling great! 

Welcome aboard! BTW, there's no such thing as a stupid question.... sort of... with in limits....lol