Rosconow

Don't know about the andro fusion product. But 50mg of proviron is a great starting point and is almost universally agreed as a start dose. That's what i run, any more for me anyways, skin gets oily, zits start.... the usual androgenic sides. 

If you are needle adverse try to get your hands on some androgel. Works for me.

1 hour ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:

@Rosconow @ElectricRocker I do agree with both of you and mods are doing a great job , And no I don’t want to be a mod that’s not for me , I guess I was getting a little frustrated with these guys coming in and being able to see right through them like glass and you know something isn’t right.

Fair enough, and i have seen you post "read the rules", like myself, a few times. 

 In the mean time, small penises are a good offence; "This isn't a source board, so take your small penis and fu*k off!". 

No.... the mods are the mods. Nothing around here gets out of hand enough before a mod sees or deals with it. 

 @CapeBretonDadBod, if you want to be a mod, just appeal to oly or northernlifters, they may make you one or tell you to get your post count up, or post quality up.

Heaven forbid and until this board is like messo, the mods are doing a fantastic job. Us vets can always scold the newbs via or posts if they get out of line.

This guy was doin it for years.... years ago. Why do you think his arms were always so pumped?

I take my dose before bed. Your body does its largest gh pulse just shortly before REM sleep so why not maximize it. Plus you won't get ravenous hunger (cause your sleeping), or as much lethargy. I have found most sides go away after the first 2-3 weeks. Other than the cps and edema..... 

37 minutes ago, Shelbysdad said:

What dosage are you using ? I dont get the numb hands, I use about 30mg. 

25mg. Everyone's different. I didn't really have numb hands all day till after six months continuous usage.  

As well, no real standards in the underground. I've had two separate labs mk677, both same mg on the packet, but one was far superior to the other. FYI, neither labs are sponsors here.

Welcome aboard!

Hey all, 

 Anyone know anything about this? Went to their site to order, and was greeted by a notice they're temporarily shut down. Hope it's not that long.... 

38 minutes ago, Guardian Dispensaries said:

I like to pin my test twice a week. I find that running every other day was the best. I would pin 125mg eod and i found i felt the best as it was always at a even distribution. However, with family life and work and everything else, 250mg twice a week will do just fine. 

Not exactly trt dosages.... geesh!

1 hour ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:

I was curious in the information I have been reading about AI that they cause a lot of joint pain , I have bad joints as is so I don’t want anything that will cause me more pain than I have is there any truth to that information? And if so can I sub proviron for an AI ?

 AI's can cause joint pain as a side effect of crashing your estrogen. Too much estrogen no good, too little estrogen no good. They don't hurt your joints on their own. It's always a fine balance. 

Chances are you're not going to get bloods done i presume. That's the only way you can know for sure.

I think they have all been proven to work. The thing with sublingual or transdermal methods of treatment is, from what I've gathered, is the varying degree to how the individual absorbs. 

 I'm on androgel (officially....lol) when I am off cycle and love it. My doc has had to taper my dosage down from my starting point because i seem to be a very good transdermal absorber, thiner skin maybe, more porous?

 It is up to you whether you want to pack some gel up your nose or not. I only apply the androgel once a day on my shoulders. Done.  

3 hours ago, Shelbysdad said:

Looks like to much work for me, lol. I'm to lazy so I do the liquid oral thing. How long (approximately) would it take to cap up 10g of dbol at 50mg/tab, 2000 tablets. Thanks for the posts

A while... for 2000 caps you'd need 100 grams of raws.

Takes me about 1.5 hours to mix and cap 100 caps. I only prepare what i think i need for the time frame involved. I keep the rest of the raws vac sealed with absorbent packs for freshness.

As far as the parameters you described of ingredients, 10 grams into 50mg per cap, would give you 200 caps. Perhaps you just added one too many zeros to get "2000".

Ready for the math?

So I'm going to try to be as general, but specific as I can.... this equation is for 100 caps.

25mg is equal to .025 grams, you just cary the decimal (love metric system).

1) figure out capsule weight eg. .090g

2) figure your filler weight in a full capsule with capsule  Eg. .560g

3) subtract capsule from filled weight .560-.090=.470

4) subtract amount of active ingredient to get your total filler weight. .470-.025=.445 total filler

Now we move the decimal to get total mixing weights.

 44.5 grams filler, 2.5 grams active

This is how i figured it out on my own, if someone has a better formula please chime in.

Now titrate away.... 

Here's my set up. You will need a scale that reads grams down to 1/1000. You can find a reloading scale online for $50ish. 

Kind dry vid.... but none the less. This is the type of cap filler I use. Labour of love, you won't win any speed records, but will be cheaper supplements in the end.

FYI: Some good filler powders that I use are glutamine, creatine, arginine, dextrose. I try to match particle size of filler to active ingredient.

From experience don't use whey, it clumps up and packs together easy, plus it's super light weight and can "poof", making a mess.

Hey all,

 Thought I'd throw this out there to share how I mix my raws when they are going into capsules. Just mixing two ingredients together via stirring will not make a homogeneous mixture. Only "grinding" your components into similar sized particles will ensure fairly accurate dosing.    Enjoy.

58 minutes ago, MuscleDummy said:

Would you also wanna be on durning PCT/TRT before bulk so it’s in a more active stages during cycle? Have it stack on your AAS as well?

Yes. 

If i were you, (because i do it), overlap the mk so you're still on it after you wrap up your aas cycle. You will keep lots of your strength and more mass if you use mk as a bridge.

1 hour ago, xpac2 said:

For guys with low dose dhea (25mgs) added to trt. Whats the reasoning behind it and do you notice a difference? Always debating wether to add it to my trt but not interested in raising my estro if there isnt a point to taking it.

I am prescribed 50mg daily DHEA. It's been explained to me by my doc as a prohormone that helps test work. He didn't express a concern with it producing estrogen. Test will do that good enough on it's own if your'e prone to it. 

2 hours ago, MuscleDummy said:

How’s it on the bloods off cycle? 

The mk i have been using has no effect on the blood panel i run every month. No elevated liver enzymes, lipids good, all good. Nothing methylated in it.

 I havn't been able to do igf1 test as not prescribed any hgh to test for. 

3 hours ago, MuscleDummy said:

So you would basically run it year round for best results I’m guessing? Or most of your year depending on AAS cycling? 

I would say yes to running for longer durations. And it wouldn,t hurt to run along side any aas cycle. 

 If you do the research on hgh, even though people can start feeling it work (via sides) very soon after starting, the real benefits don't show up for quite some time. 

Eg. Cartilage turn over is aprox 5-6 months. Hgh although can expedite the process, it takes time to strengthen bone, tendons, ligaments etc. Building muscle is easy and fast in comparison.

 Hgh or mk677, the longer the better imo. Or run both together like i have... magic... with numb hands.  

5 hours ago, Francis "Frank" Castle said:

DUDE! So happy for you that you are feeling so good. Well done!

It's been 10 days for me now on my 1st ever, aside from Androgel, which pales in comparison. The wife mentioned today that she can't believe the obvious difference in just my overall mental state, how I'm talking/behaving etc. I thought that was a bit quick so maybe placebo, but given I started on the 16th with a full cc of Test E 250 and that I decided to up my target from 200/week to 300/week and I'm doing it eod and I seem to have found good balance so far with 50mg of Clomid eod and .5mg Anastrozole same eod, and given that my levels were damned low for me, after some research I don't think I need to worry about this being placebo effect.

the only thing I need to try is that I think the clomid is causing a bit of hot flashing or increased temp so I'm going to take a break from that for a week/couple of weeks and see what happens. I won't be getting labs again until end of august so just kinda have to guess at it a bit based on how I feel and everything I have learned from all of you amazing people!

Anyway, full steam ahead, and I hope both of us do nothing but power forward feeling more and more like superheroes for the rest of our lives!

I take it you're on self prescribed trt? No Dr I know would blast you with 250mg and clomid......? 

 But good luck to you. Hope bloodwork is done at least every 6 months.

How much and what kind of trt protocol are you on?

Personally, i was off gear for quite awhile when I first went on my prescribed trt. Doc put me on androgel, DHEA and low dose arimadex. The increased hormones gave me elevated mood and super sex drive for a couple months before it kinda became "normal", and i didn,t notice it as much. 

On 6/23/2019 at 3:32 PM, MuscleDummy said:

Hey anyone have any first hand info on the turn around in MK in placement of growth?

i hear a lot of guys talk about how they didn’t see any real effects of growth for months down the line. And that’s supposedly with legit growth. But with a lot of these guys, who knows, seems like it’s likely they don’t have pharm level/legit stuff. So that could be total bullshit for all I know.

But cost effective wise MK definitely seems like something to try, but hard to gauge the success if I don’t know how long term I gotta be gauging for. Just trying to do a little homework before I commit. 

Mk677 is a long game. Anything hgh is. Be prepared to go 6 months or more to see it's real benefits. Lots of guys posting their long term igf-1 bloods over on Professional Muscle. But like all things internet, salt is required.

But my results on mk all mimic when i was taking 3 iu's generic gh. Right now my fingers are numb.... amongst other things gh related.