Blitz

Look at Hosstile Bloodshot you'll get some good ideas there

I believe you can get PRP covered. My doc did prolotherapy on my torn tricep tendon and it improved a lot.

Got GoodLife booked for my first workout in the gym this Sunday.

Precision has been the best for me. Years ago medistar was painless I would do 3cc of t400 so I only had to pin once a week and never felt a thing.

10 hours ago, a_ahmed said:

And nope ain't happening, but some lucky Ontarians in middle of no where technically are now in phase 3 and should have gyms

Looks like i'll have to keep expanding my ghetto home gym for a while.

Lol I wouldn't call Ottawa the middle of no where

I think it's a good idea, especially for younger guys. 500iu Monday, Wednesday and Friday is a good protocol. This will keep your sperm production and such up. If you are using UGL HCG, might want to pump that to 1000iu. I notice at least there is a difference between ugl and things like pregnyl or intervet. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like human grade or vet grade flows as freely as it did 5-10 years ago.

GoodLife issued a statement that they can't move forward with the dates they communicated earlier as they haven't gotten the go ahead from the government in Ontario. I'm sure every other gym advertising reopening was piggy backing off GoodLife intel. Hopefully we get more info soon.

8 minutes ago, eightyeight14 said:

lol that’s cool i never gave a fuck how you got your six pack that’s the difference between us it you think your better cuz u got it natty i have zero shame in being a synthetic made champion.

you just feel salty because you know i’m gonna look shredded and shortcut all the time you yourself put in and it bothers you so you’re picking on me over insignificant shit and telling me i’m mentally weak and shit . idk if that’s how you talk to your friends but nobody appreciates that shit take it somewhere else . 

I'm not natural lol but I am over 220 and under 10%. You're being a goof now, so I'm going to stop posting in your thread. I really hope you're mentally delayed or something because as a grown man not being able to take honest feedback is going to hold you back. Your skin is so thin and not in the bodybuilding sense lol. You sound delusional talking about being shredded, taking all these drugs, not taking anyone's advice on diet but still looking like you do. Losing weight is so fucking easy all it takes is discipline. You'll learn fat people try to take the easy way and remain fat, people in shape just do it. Also back to our first back and forth in this thread, you said you were going to be shredded by July 4, how's that going? How's it knowing that I told you what you needed to do and you could have been shredded but instead you ate cereal, took DNP and look like you do?

7 minutes ago, eightyeight14 said:

okay brother can you stop with that shit now? nobody wanna hear that shit i’m over here tryna get shredded bitch idc what you think about me i’m solid as fuck...stupid ass clowns like you are free fuel to me anyway. you just piss me off and make me angry which is free energy and makes me stronger ... keep talking your just gonna make me stronger , more focused etc

If you can't take honest feedback you're not going anywhere. I hope it fuels you. I'm not posting here because I want you to stay fat. I'm posting because I want you to get healthy. You can insult me but I'm sitting here with a six pack not taking DNP my advice might be worth something.

3 minutes ago, eightyeight14 said:

no way i’m not gonna be shredded it’s day 3 and i’m feeling tight as hell already i can feel atleast a lb difference each day . 

you are right about the cereal now that i think about the sugar in milk. that’s getting up there for sure . i guess i’ll switch back to eating 80 cal gummy pack at afternoon and at night.

i don’t consider myself mentally weak and think you’re wrong about that part but hey that’s how you feel. that’s quite a bold statement to make

Don't eat sugar for 30 days if you're not mentally weak. It's not a bold statement, this entire thread is proof. You're addicted to garbage and that addiction is because your lack the mental toughness to push through little cravings long enough to get into decent shape.

I've heard good things however it seems like most bodybuilders now use berberine instead of metformin. There are studies showing 1500mg of berberine is the same as 1500mg of metformin.

If you find a good glucose disposal agent they usually include berberine, cinnamon and other supplements that in sum do more than metformin.

I'm not the best source for GH info but I've always really known before bed to be the best for fat loss. Is your gh human grade or UGL? If it's hg I think what you have planned is good, if it's UGL I would take all 4iu before bed.

16 minutes ago, eightyeight14 said:

just checked it out, im allergic to soy protein so thats a no go. I think im just gonna add some more brown rice and chicken to try and see if its just "calorie" cravngs that can be curbed by regular foods. 

 

for me personally i believe in a 1 or 2 SMALL cheat "snacks" every day to keep you good and not craving sweets day after day, slowly becoming a madman. this could be like 2 packs of 70-80 calorie gummies with real fruit, or a bowl of cereal, etc....as long as it isnt something ridicoulus like a chocolate bar or a bowl of ice cream, its quite a healthy way to manage your cravings.

If you are superhuman and dont ever get any cravings at all, then yes obviously you would have no purpose to just eat sugar for no reason...for people like me, theres a method behind the madness.

Honestly if you're too mentally weak to not eat a treat everyday, hell twice a day according to this post, you shouldn't be taking any drugs. How are you going to feel when you finish this DNP and you still aren't shredded? Are you going to look for the next drug? Literally anything to avoid addressing the issue.

3 hours ago, eightyeight14 said:

i think we all cereal isn’t good compared to much else, but it falls in the middle for me because of the vitamins i miss and isn’t just straight junk. i’m not gonna act like it isn’t a treat , but it’s perfectly fine to eat a couple bowls of cereal and skim milk when you get carb cravings from DNP...we are talking like 350 cals here bro! it’s the only treat i eat LOL

It is straight junk man. That mindset is why you're where you are. You don't eat cereal on a diet unless it's a cheat or if you're shredded and using it pre or post workout. It's not perfectly fine, that's why you're overweight. Look at the ingredients - Whole Grain Wheat, Sugar, Rice Flour, Canola Oil, Fructose, Maltodextrin, Dextrose, Salt, Cinnamon, Trisodium Phosphate, Soy Lecithin, Caramel Color, BHT. 4 of the ingredients are synonyms for sugar. Canola oil is pure garbage, they use chemicals to extract the oil out of the seed. 350 calories is a lot lol, didn't you say you're eating 1500-2000 calories? At your weight, while cutting you need 1000-1200 calories just for protein, I don't know how you spare 350 on chemicals and sugar. Why do you need a treat everyday? Once you eat it everyday, it's not a treat. It's now a staple of your diet. A treat would be once a week. The reason the world is fat is because people eat "treats" everyday.

3 hours ago, eightyeight14 said:

any other healthier recommendations for curbing the DNP carb cravings? I really think cereal with skim milk isnt bad ONLY DURING DNP, normally I dont crave things like this but i think all things considered as well as how it help your mental..seems fine to me but idk. I dont like spiking my blood sugar a bunch all day so prefer somthing other than fruit. 

Discipline. You're literally taking the hardest bodybuilding drugs out there. Suck on a lemon when you have a craving. You don't eat fruit because you don't want to spike your blood sugar but you eat a kids cereal loaded with sugar, next to no fibre and then have it with milk? You keep saying skim milk like it's a diet food. A cup of skim milk has 12g of sugar. If you eat a serving of cereal with a skim milk you're getting way more sugar than you'd get eating watermelon. Milk and cereal is literally the greatest dirty bulk food out there, doesn't keep you full and it's loaded with carbs.

16 hours ago, eightyeight14 said:

@Ryujiin I did take your most of your advice i think, here’s what i run to supp-

 

v8 vegetable juice

v8 berry blast diet juice with b , c vitamins 

coq10

elderberry (powerful antioxidant)

1x citrizine daily before dose (similar to claritin)

1x hydroxyzine daily before dose  (a better , prescription strength benedryl i already had on hand)

 

-i am missing a multi vitamin tho. and need potassium or to buy  

that’s about it...i’m drinking water whenever i can mixed with the v8 berry juice. eating light carbs moderate protein light fat , not eating more than 1500 cals per day max. appetite just isn’t there . i’m doing just walks/hikes daily for cardio, and only 45 min gym sessions with half the weight i normally do

 

-only thing i’m binging on is a couple bowls of cinnamon toast crunch cereal per day , its got vitamins mixed in it, only 11g sugar per cup, 3g protein and hella cinnamon . the milk got protein too obviously, and i drink low-fat , so it’s really just a healthy treat more than anything , and i’m still way in a deficient and it keeps me sane. 

Please don't call cinnamon toast crunch a healthy treat. It's literally chemically processed garbage.. It's fine to have treats but remove the word healthy from pretty much anything you buy off a shelf.

Even 200mg is terrible for me, I had to dose EOD if it was less than freezing outside. I also believe it is the most overhyped compound fighting up there with insulin. Take pictures before and after, post them up.

5 hours ago, eightyeight14 said:

okay guys i’ll be honest with you i did end up ordering some dnp but it’s totally fine because it’s just gonna be a 7 day experiment nothing crazy.  I got like 50x 200mg caps. i know you guys are worried i can’t handle this but i can, that said any last words of advice on best way to run it? Planning to start it like July 1st, run for 7 days at 400mg a day , take a week off, then do another 7 days same dose, nothing above.......how bad is the heat at 400mg? 

 

what do u guys think .

Well I'd fucking die at 400mg a day for 7 days but I guess if that's where it want to start.

I've recently been running 400 test e, 300 tren e and 450 eq. Probably the best cycle I've ever run.

2 hours ago, eightyeight14 said:

I like guys like you who can keep their friends reality checked. I for sure agree. I think my problem, and ive always had this, is I am impatient with the result time.

I got this high bodyfat from years...of just sitting around no gym no cardio just eating junk and taking drugs. Ive changed all that shit , my diet is good, training is good ,  no hard drugs just some weed. no junk food ever, it makes me sick now. it wasnt too hard because i was into bodybuilding in high school.

I just have a problem with waiting for the results. I will be more patient, I see I must be rushing if so many people are saying similar stuff . im in my mid 20's but I am 18 forever so yes I do have a very young bull style of doing stuff 

Just keep going, don't set a timeline. You'll get there.

1 hour ago, eightyeight14 said:

alright .. can you explain a bit tho who would it be used for? I thought chubbier guys like me use it to get down to 10-12% really easily. not big already ripped guys. for now i’ll follow your advice. as far as the moderation, i do definitely go crazy sometimes but with stimulants/fat burners is one thing i am very sensitive to and use extremely lightly. So i would never go over 400mg per day or ever want to, and would be tethered to a box fan and window ac maxed out.i do work from home so it isn’t impossible because i can be in climate control all day. 

i will be honest and say i really am curious now about using it. but for now i’m sticking to the healthy way and seeing where i end up on july 4th 

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here’s a lil update pic today, definitely lost some water after the dose of letro. still digging away day by day at the muffin top. there is a filter on it cuz i uploaded it to my instagram, lol my bad..

Honestly if you want to do DNP you can but despite what people say online it isn't magic. You need to learn how to get down to a healthy 12% naturally. At that point at least you have your mind in check. If you need drugs to get down to 12% there is an issue with mental fortitude. 10-15% is healthy. It doesn't matter what this pussy, fucked up, lizzo loving world says being fat is not healthy. As a man being over 15% is unnecessary and suboptimal. Once you get to 20% you're just plain unhealthy. 

7 hours ago, eightyeight14 said:

man i’m starting to get pissed off there’s no way i’m gonna get shredded by the 4th unless i take god damn dnp. didn’t realize how much harder getting older makes your body hold on to fat. 

There is no need to take DNP. I've eaten the same food every single day just tapering down the amounts since April 1 except for scheduled refeeds, I've averaged around 1-1.5 hours of liss every single day, I haven't missed a workout despite the gym closing. This is what it takes to get shredded. I haven't even missed a cup of water. 

7 hours ago, eightyeight14 said:

true but since i’m not focusing on gaining muscle and more so leaning out wouldn’t this be the move to keep estro lower ? i do agree it’s not good when trying to put on a mass

Just because muscle gain isn't the focus doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered. Are you trying to lose muscle? Being in a caloric deficit is catabolic, having low estrogen is anti-anabolic. Just focus on diet, activity and water intake, forget about the hormones.

1 hour ago, BodyTechPharma said:

Also keep in mind you need estrogen to gain muscle .

This cannot be stated enough. I honestly believe one of the reasons guys make shit gains is because they snack on AIs.

14 hours ago, eightyeight14 said:

yes i have heard using it for extended time is not good for ya...but ppl have told me my bodyfat will make me have more estrogen , so wouldn’t it be good to block that and basically make my estrogen that of a lower bodyfat persons so i can drop the weight easier? maybe i’m wrong please explain.just feel like my body is holding on to the fat like way too hard and it doesn’t make sense cause i’m tryharding over here.

Honestly you shouldn't be messing with estrogen if you don't have bloodwork. Yes really high estrogen can make it hard to lose fat but low estrogen can make it hard to lose fat as well. Shooting in the dark isn't the answer. You shouldn't focus on these little variables and instead look at the big picture. Losing fat takes time. We can argue whether you started at 30% or something lower, we can argue on the definition of shredded but regardless to go from where you were to where you want to be will take time. Just keep working. Once you get to 10-12% body fat youll be able to make better assessments on how things are impacting water retention, digestion, etc. At your body fat I'm not sure how you can tell what's water, gastric bloating or fat. You need to just keep dropping fat at this point and stop focusing on the details and trying to play with the small variables.

8 minutes ago, eightyeight14 said:

ok, i ended up not taking any. but i did however begin on a 1x per week protocol of 1.25 letro simply because, i’m feeling like i’m holding way too much water with this clean of diet, water intake and cardio. makes no sense. i’d rather look tight and feel a lil worse and have dry joints at this point because i’ve been cutting hardcore and still the water weight won’t fuck off .. 

Water will drop when you drop body fat. Letro should only be used the last week or so precontest and even then I would opt for something else.