eightyeight14
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Starting pics-
https://ibb.co/C9Tqpbb
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https://ibb.co/BjRLV3nStarting stats-
5’9
200lbs
18-20% bf (yikes)
Started my first cycle, only other thing i’ve ever took was super dmz back when it was legal in 2014. Ran no test base because i didn’t wanna do it right and also didn’t wanna have to inject cuz i was inpatient. I do have a high bf rn but said fuck it and started up anyway before cutting it all. I just hate cutting natty, makes u feel incredibly small and weak within days . hate it .however i’m not cutting on this cycle , i’m recomping mainly . Just trying to keep my current mass , gain a bit more, but mostly aiming to just slowly reduce the body fat
12/4 - 250mg Test C injected into right quad. I’m officially on test . Read some things afterwards about frontloading and ended up injecting another 500mg into my other quad. sucks i had to sacrifice 2 sites on 1 dose but I am inexperienced and those things happen. I also took Letrozole at 1.25mg . this will be done daily as i’m sensitive to estrogen and have a small amount of gyno from puberty / super dmz
12/5 - Not much
12/6- I feel extra energy..best way I can describe it. Like I feel younger almost. Skin is getting oily more often , and blood pressure is moderate due to the frontloading. I took propranolol to control the blood pressure. it should be improved by next week when my levels become more stable
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this usuusally happens to me when i switch diet styles. takes a bit for ur stomach to adjust to the new properties of the food (more fiber etc) and until then ur gonna be digesting the first few meals like shit. i recall once my stomach was fucked for a solid 4 days on a new diet, every meal would just cause indigestion and fuck load of farts and burps. i then got anxious about it, which, anxiety can also itself simply cause IBS...so as u can guess i wasnt very happy. was considering getting checked but it randomly solved itself...dunno. tren is supposed to mess up digestion as well so maybe ur body just cant tolerate it like it used to. id try dropping the tren or reducing the dose if a controlled diet doesnt solve anything in a week
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2 hours ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:
Don’t gamble with your health just for the time it takes to do the filter process over.
AGREED! i was being very spontaneous to even consider risking it, smh....i get excited and fixated on new or exciting shit (like my first test e cycle)
and tend to make hasty decisions sometimes. 18 yr old me wouldve problly said fuck it but im a little wiser now after almost dying multiple times. that being said, you can see that side of me is still in there somewhere. LMAO -
im just gonna go ahead and refilter it just for the peace of mind. i mean i doubt that exact section of oil was contaminated but still
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so i was having to refill my filling syringe like 3 times cuz it was small and the needle was also small and not pulling shit up very well. anyway as I was half done filling one of my test vials
I forgot to pop the filter back on and just shot the raw mixed test into the vial. theresa about 3ml unfiltered to 9ml filtered in the bottle. Is it a big deal and should I just re-filter the entire thing (huge pain in my ass until i get bigger needles , only 25g for now smh) or is such a small amount fine since its mixed in with the filtered and diluted?
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10 minutes ago, Fizzyx said:
There is no one BEST way to take steroids. It depends on your preferences (goals) and level of risk tolerance.
If you think it is dumb to not want to risk infertility and/or having to take TRT shots for the rest of your life then sure, a blast/cruise regimen would be acceptable to you. However these are some of the risks that you need to be aware of that you are assuming.
Ancillary requirements are basically the same for standard cycles - lots of info around.
I feel as the fertility risk are overhyped. bostin loyd cruises on like 1g test , has for years , done massive cycles and said he knocked his gf up the first week of trying with hcg just recently. ronnie coleman is another example, has like what, 5 kids and did dosages we will never, ever even come close to matching.
also, the way i see it everyone has atleast a few things they adopt into a daily routine, TRT would probably be one of the most useful and meaningful of anything in the world as far as using indefinitely, and thats once a week. rather be "dependent" on something actually useful instead of cookie cutters who are dependent on junk food, cigs, coffee etc and dont even realize it. its easier to point fingers when its something meticulous/taboo as TRT ...-
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13 minutes ago, GainTrain said:
Sigh... You’re not gonna like what I have to say. But I’m gonna say it anyway… You’re nowhere near in the shape you should be taking steroids. They are an enhancement not a magic pill.
Keep in mind this is only my opinion, but you’ll get way better results if you can dial in your training and your diet before you take steroids. Even use that juice at the end of the rainbow to motivate yourself.
Of course you’re welcome to do whatever you like. But if you were my little brother or my friend this is the advice Id give you. It was the same advice given to me before I started steroids. Since you’re so cool about sharing your physique, I’ll show you where I got to before I started steroids
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You look like you’ve got a really good frame to pack on muscle, and a lot of potential. And you seem to have a great work ethic. Again, I think you should go see a doctor and if you need testosterone he will give it to you. Spend a year or so dialling in your training and diet and then when you start taking steroids the results will be phenomenal.
really solid advice, no offense taken at all! i can for sure improve and got a long ways to go. i appreciate the frame comments, guess i gotta just be more patient. I do have the habit of jumping the gun from excitement, seems the majority answer is im not ready.
ur for sure way more well rounded in your pre-cycle pics
Would getting my own labs from a private lab and accessing the data myself be more useful than a standard doc test? as far as like showing all my baseline values. if my GP can just do the test and share the full results with me then ill just do it that way tho
looks like ill be cutting for a month or 2 and just recomping for now on the TRT if needed
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1 minute ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:
Bro looks like an audition pic for magic mike ! Sorry man I had to , my honest opinion here man , work on your diet and train , you have a pretty high bf % I’d do just a trt dose get feeling better , you will start burning fat once your test level comes up , once you have your bodyfat reduced , the gear will start to shine and with lower bodyfat it reduces estrogen sides , I think you will be happier. You don’t want to run a blast until you learn your body, I recommend only one compound at a time, see how your body takes to each one. Then next time add another.
Thanks bro lmao killing me. apologies, I always seem to take my progress pics before hopping in the shower but hey, dont wanna cover up leg progress overtime.
I think you are right, ill start with the cruise and asses how im doing. How long will it take for Test with a deca ester to kick in, should I start to see results in a month in the mirror?-
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Okay guys @GainTrain @Corey5150 @CapeBretonDadBod
heres a current pic as requested taken today.https://ibb.co/Lr4qKJd?fbclid=IwAR1X8oW5g75kjbvXDaQQVRusKkl7XA5zFqIsR0v3zejEFHLxWu1o8578mAQ
As you can see Im sitting in a bear-mode right now, admittedly i look like trash next to some of ya'll in here so please be respectful with your comments if you can, if not fuck it. I havent got my bloods yet, but as ive said i susepct low T because I just kinda feel off ever since i recovered from that superdrol cycle at 18 (now 23)...just low energy alot, libido isnt anything special, I take horny goat weed to keep up with the bitches when I have them on hand or else its a struggle to have sex more than 1 time a day...so its kinda just like I think realistically I'll fall within low-normal range, and the doc wont do shit for me as far as legit TRT
that being said, im not gonna bullshit myself here, i wanna be enhanced, my goal isnt to just correct the low T symptoms to become average. I am also toying with the idea of simply starting test D 200mg / tren 200mg because like I said, im pretty chubby and need to lean out honestly. Now before you guys bite my head off about the tren, Ive been reading on a certain TRT Dr. that believes test/tren is superior for HRT than test only.....any input is appreciated even flame. id only use tren in blasts obviously
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I am definitely learning myself, but yes, thats what Ive seen many pros claim so I dont see why it isnt true. also makes common sense- if ur body is dealing with rebalancing hormones all the time it cant focus on optimal gains. im planning on doing exactly this plan myself, cruise on 200 and blast with 500. Cycles are dumb, no point if I cant keep my gains for the foreseeable future. Plus I wanna sit around at supraphysical levels as often as possible. im only 23 right now and members have been advising me against it but honestly now is the time, im in my golden years and I dont wanna wait till my 30's to start enjoying myself as far as gains go. at that age I plan to already be settling down so seems dumb to waste time
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8 hours ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:
I already stated a cruise of between 150-175mg per week is a good cruise I also pair mine with 50mg proviron per day that also helps free up some test , but with is your test level now as we speak your actual number ? Do you have that ? It’s hard for any of us to give you solid advice without a baseline.
Yes, my bad, i got confused and thought someone else had originally suggested that, dunno what I was thinking lol.
As far as my baselines, I will be getting those done soon, defintely not gonna just rush things like last time and skip that. For now im gonna shoot for a 200mg cruise and reduce from 300mg I orginally planned per your advice Ill reduce to 150 if something comes up..right now just waiting to have all my "ducks in a row" so to speak so I can get the ball rolling -
2 hours ago, GainTrain said:
I’m curious, if the compound you took was superdrol how did you get gyno. It’s a dht and does not convert to estrogen.
Also, you mentioned test D?
Yes, post your physique pics. I’m curious, sounds like your pretty serious about the gym.
basically I got a delayed gyno due to having no estrogen control in the pct phase..acne, puffy / itchy nips for months, eventually stabilized itself and am left with a small, hard to notice lump on left nip, and almost non-existent lump on right nip (still there tho). bodybuilders would notice my gyno immediately tho. it looks passable as normal so it isnt too bad, just dont need it getting worse.
and yes, I went with Test D due to only having to inject 1x per week, over 3x with Test E. I was told bloods will be stable that way aswell. its on its wayill post some in the morning, 3:40 AM here and cant be fucked to find a decent pic to upload.
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6 minutes ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:
No man ! To give your body a rest and help bring your levels back as close to normal as you can, most heavy users , go by the method time on equals time off. No offence I don’t think you are ready to use AAS .
OK but the thing is im not aiming to really do high doses, I just want to have a noticeable edge over natty levels, so Im not looking to have to take like huge blasts and rests.
I resepct u dont think im ready. but, in your opinion, what dose would be good to cruise on to make some noticeable enhanced gains above a natty person? id appreciate just advice as in cycle info and numbers instead of telling me not to do it. if u can actually give me help on how to go about this with a good plan id really appreciate it man..I know u can help me out with some guidelines
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1 minute ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:
With all due respect do you know why you cruise ?
to keep gains from blasting right? I just thought maybe 300 wouldnt be too high to maintain and build muscle on
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8 minutes ago, CLVTCH said:
Since you seem to be stuck on wanting to cruise/blast. I would cruise at no more than 125-150mg per week. When you blast go as high as you want, 500-800 mg if you like with ancilliaries to match the dosages.
Once, I tried cruising at 200mg/week, ended up with high hemoglobin (195), and high blood pressure, among other issues. Decided a year round pump wasn't worth an early death and have been running 100mg/week since with great results. YMMV
dang. i guess ill be more conservative then, defintely hate high BP . i read alot of guys doing 200-250 with their bloods being fine but i guess it just depends on the person.
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2 hours ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:
Bro 300mg is too much for trt , I only cruise around 150-175mg depending on how I feel, and keep in mind everybody is not the same and your body may work differently than someone else’s I’m a huge advocate of less is more , my test never goes above 500mg and if I use tren my test drops even lower, most guys use the least amount of gear they can, it’s safer reduces sides, now before all that go get your bloods done , check all your levels and markers and be honest and make a informed decision. A lot of us old guys are on trt for life , but we were low from age.
ok, thanks for the advice! question, do you still make "steroid" like gains off that TRT dose? Like i mentioned, I kinda want a dose I can look good on, not just feel good on. Im kinda confused on if its better if I should just do high dose blasts instead of staying on like a low cycle dose constantly...so like instead of 300mg cruise, I should do like 500mg blasts and 200mg cruise? is that better
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9 minutes ago, GainTrain said:
First..Damn man, if what you say is true that’s brutal..
Second.. your body will recover on its own if given time. Go see a doctor and get bloodwork.
third... 300 mg is not trt, it’s a cycle. My doc gives me trt at 100mg and it’s more than fine.
lastly.. Most wont help an 18 ruin his body with running gear.
i think you misread bro I did the superdrol at 18, its been 5 yrs, Im almost 24 now
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14 minutes ago, BobTheOldLifter said:
300 is more than cruise. You should cruise at the lowest dose that makes you feel well AND keeps blood markers in the green zone.
No mention of blood testing going foward, and you discard lifelong dependence in your early twenties??
Big red flags here....
I know 300 is a little high, Im trying to get a nice mental boost as well as physical. i kinda want more than i need. marc lobliner runs 300mg/week trt and claims he feels amazing and is shredded year round so i wanted that
I definitely am gonna get bloods every 3 to 6 months, and some before starting the cycle of course.
and no, dependency isnt a new concept for me. Im already dependent on other scripts so it wouldnt make a difference to me if I felt good.
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Hey guys, first post here. I saw this new community is really active so I figured I'd become a part of you all!
Stats:
23 yrs old (24 in a few months),
198 lbs , 18bf% 5'9
So, heres the situation. I ran super dmz 3.0 at 18 yrs old (yes, classic DYEL'r 18 yr old that wanted immediate muscle so he took the most potent oral steroid available of course) which is a stack of alpha-1 , DMZ, and msten.
and the cycle honestly was fucking epic. traps, shoulders, arms got huge even tho i lifted like utter dog shit (I used a home bench in my bedroom, thats it LMAO)
I pct'd off some random peptide source's clomid, no AI like a fucktard, got mild gyno rebound but recovered, never felt 100% tho.
(ill post pics of my physique if enough ppl care)
ANYWAAY
fast forward to now. Im thinking of test only, keeping it simple, but honestly Ive been feeling like a beta lately to be quite frank.
Its been making me think of just how well I recovered since I never got bloodwork. Therefore instead of cycling I was planning on starting a 300mg Test D
perma-cruise. Honestly, Im at a point in my life where my own goals and physique matter more to me than anything right now, I dont care about becoming dependent.
SOOOOOOOOOOOO
should I just begin a 300mg/week TRT cruise, should I go a 12 week 500mg blast then just revert to a cruise after, etc??
Test C 500mg 12 weeks cycle log!! first real cycle
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Thanks for the responses!
The AI dose was indeed from a recommendation, i’m gonna assess my dose and see how i feel in the next few days . Estrogen feels fine.. no dry joints or any problems with energy and this is the 3rd day on the dose. Prob shouldn’t use an AI if not needed like you said but it seems to be working out well. I think i’m gonna keep to my schedule unless something comes up just so i can get a full scope experience. I am estrogen sensitive and i don’t wanna get even 1% more gyno from this man. oh well if my levels take a hit, i’m not running anything else stressful.
Bodyfat is def high, but again, this was from like months of just eating and not going to the gym with the munchies. My diet has been spotless for 4 weeks (when i started getting back in the gym) i literally am not appetized by junk anymore because how clean i’ve been. It’s mostly oatmeal, fruits , fish, chicken, potatoes, milk , sometimes a red meat if I need more cals like pork or steak but I avoid beef. I’m lifting heavy every day and eating good every day, so something good is bound to happen as far as results with the test.
I understand you guys don’t think i wasnt ready but honestly I think you are comparing me to a too high standard . There are, by FAR, many many worse conditions to start with. Could I have built some more lean muscle? sure. Could I have cut more weight? sure. But in all honesty it really isn’t that bad of a starting point considering these twigs/obese guys hopping on 1g tren after their first week of lifting .
with all due respect, it’s happening and what’s done is done so if you wanna stay tuned for the transformation you are very welcome! If your intent is to come in and let me know you think i should immediately pct off, well ...it’s just not gonna happen. sorry boys. ! stay tuned for some more updates.