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HGH is expensive and often faked so about 1 year ago I began testing HGH using HGH serum and IGF-1 testing via blood work. During this period of time the real world experience of testing HGH led me down an exciting road of research and learning. It is my hope to share my experiences and the science behind HGH testing so that HGH users may know for sure that the products they are injecting are genuine. The Protocol 10 iu rHGH Intramuscular injection (IM) Have your blood drawn 3-4 hours after injecting. Fasting is not necessary. No strenuous activity for at least 30 min prior to test. With a 10iu vial, inject 1 ml (cc) into the vial that contains the GH powder/puck. Direct the stream of water down the side of the glass, being careful not to direct the stream of water directly into the GH powder; swirl gently until the powder is completely dissolved in the solution. DO NOT SHAKE THE VIAL. *WARNING* GH serum testing is a crude method for confirming GH potency. What do the results mean? My research and experiences indicate that injecting 10iu IM of pharmaceutical grade rHGH yields a serum level of between 15-50+ ng/mL in most cases. However this is a general range and should not be interpreted to form a strong opinion about the potency of HGH products. Several tests should be performed to determine an individualistic response. Originally I began serum testing after injecting HGH subcutaneously (SC) however after some research and several lab tests I determined that SC injections did not raise GH serum levels as much as IM injections.(1)(2) This led to confusion as other users were injecting IM which made their results look dramatically better. In order to avoid confusion several veterans including myself decided to adopt IM as the standard method for testing serum HGH levels. What we learned along the way was quite interesting. Several men were getting fantastic results with various brands of underground and overseas HGH but I and another man were getting mediocre results at best. It seemed as though we were just unlucky. Our serum levels routinely fell 10-20 ng/mL lower than the others results. After about a half a dozen lab tests I decided to administer Canadian pharmacy HGH to help determine my response to a known potency of HGH. My results were staggering. My serum levels again fell short of what was expected. I tested less than 20 ng/mL. At that time I concluded that I was a low responder to HGH and that serum testing was a crude method at best for proving HGH. However a pattern was forming for me. 10iu of HGH was resulting in a range of about 14-24 ng/mL. This has given me a personal range that reflects real world experience not just some text book answer. The studies indicate that I should respond higher. The real world disagrees. Why? Maybe it’s my body weight or maybe my size (surface area). Maybe I just don’t respond well to HGH. Maybe it’s something else. My journey to find out left me questioning. Those questions led me to more research. I still feel like the answer is somewhat elusive but what I discovered next gave me a balanced understanding of just how crude GH serum testing is. In 2004 a study was conducted that measured GH antibodies in children who had received Growth Hormone over a 6 month period. 4 of the 47 children showed the presence of antibodies against rhGH. The researchers concluded that the main concern with anti-GH antibodies could be their ability to neutralize circulating growth hormone and inhibit its growth promoting effect.(3) Therefore we must be careful not to erroneously conclude a batch of GH is fake if a user’s results are substandard. This supports the view that several lab tests should be conducted with a known potency of rHGH. This will prove if the subject is a low responder to rHGH. Although this serum method is crude it does provide valuable insight. I have a known response to USA pharmacy rHGH. If an UGL or overseas product can elevate my GH levels as high as the US pharmacy GH I can be relatively confident that my GH is genuine. It is my hope that many users follow this protocol and record their responses here so we can further understand how injecting rHGH affects serum levels in a wide range of people. This will increase our knowledge and also protect members against those who sell fake products. ~Oly References 1 BMC Pharmacology and Toxicology | Full text | Pharmacokinetics of recombinant human growth hormone administered by cool.click (TM) 2, a new needle-free device, compared with subcutaneous administration using a conventional syringe and needle 2 http://www.eje-online.org/content/156/6/647.long 3 Growth hormone antibodi... [Int J Immunopathol Pharmacol. 2004 Jan-Apr] - PubMed - NCBI

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26609282 This study reports that ashwagandha supplementation is associated with significant increases in muscle mass and strength and suggests that ashwagandha supplementation may be useful in conjunction with a resistance training program. Compared to the placebo subjects, the group treated with ashwagandha had significantly greater increases in muscle strength on the bench-press exercise and the leg-extension exercise, and significantly greater muscle size increase at the arms. Compared to the placebo subjects, the subjects receiving ashwagandha also had significantly greater reduction of exercise-induced muscle damage as indicated by the stabilization of serum creatine kinase , significantly greater increase in testosterone level, and a significantly greater decrease in body fat percentage.

Just seen @Frank.Castle working out! He calls this routine “date night” good job frank 30D6DF95-73DF-4E23-973B-3169E50B167B.mp4

Hello Gents and fellow Canadians.... ChipperJones78 here. Just signed up today and I'm looking forward to reading and adding to this board. I'm currently most active on Professional Muscle under the same handle (ChipperJones78) for over 10 years. Nice to come across this board. Cheers for now.

Based in Lower Mainland of BC, lifted for 25 yrs. 43 yrs old 225lbs @ 9-10%BF

Hello im new to this site but have been around for awhile. Was on NM for 3 years, seen this and jumped aboard. Looks like a well ran site. No drama that I’ve read so far lol. Im 6’2”. 220. 9% bf looking forward to gaining some knowledge and meeting so good ppl along the way

Hey guys just wanted to say hi and get to know some people on this board... How's everyone doing

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Hi mp420 I don't know what experience you have, I'm not sure how hard you train, the weights or the volume you train with, what your diet (total calories, carbs, proteins, fats) is like, what type of AAS you use or how good your rest and recovery is but in my opinion I think you could use more rest days - especially after working your back and also especially after working your legs. Right now you have chest, shoulders, biceps two times with triceps and legs all before one single rest day. I would be so sore, tired, overtrained and unmotivated if I did that. Also, I wouldn't personally do back after biceps (you use biceps and forearms a lot on back day) day and I wouldn't recommend doing triceps right after chest / shoulder day (you use triceps a lot on chest / shoulder days). I don't even do chest and shoulders on the same day anymore but I know many do successfully. Depending how you lift, it might be good to not be as concerned with what you do according to the day of the week (Mon., Tues., Wed., etc.) or whether you can hit the body parts twice per week or not and spread things out a bit more. You might get some better results if you juggle things around and fine tune them a little more and allow for more rest. You said you've been doing this for five years so maybe it would be good to try to fine tune it and allow for more recovery and growth. Remember, you actually grow mostly while resting and not during the workouts. Also, I'm not sure of your goals but some type of cardio (the amount and type should be based on your goals) might be good to get in there somewhere. Feel free to ignore my advice as I'm just offering my opinion in an effort to help. If what you're doing works for you than please feel free to ignore my suggestions. Thanks & good luck, OD

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Without testing i know my generic chinese stuff is legit, my hands are numb going on a month now. Had some pretty good carpal tunnel symptoms coming on, but backed off my dosage. Starting to get annoying, but only have two more months to go.... for a six month run.

Hey buddy sounds like you've been doing your research on what you want to do I hope you reach your goals

My big back keeps growing....high volume again....

I have used Pareto deca and test and did what it was supposed to great gains quick gain in strength everytime I hit the gym morning wood like crazy

Hey brother. Welcome aboard. Do some reading and stay a while!