I haven't touched tren in 8 years but from what I recall note this was in my mid 20s but the worst side for me on tren was how it messed with my emotions. I'd go from feeling emotionally great, life, work, girlfriend everything felt great... then 3 days later I'd feel like shit, want to just go to the gym and keep to myself, be sleeping next to my girlfriend thinking man she cheating for sure not in an anger towards her cheating but sad like why, dreaded going to work... then I'd pop back into loving life. Mostly why I haven't touched it in years unless I were to compete I just see no need for it personally.