Jetpilot Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Hi guys I am back This is my new cycle it is base on Seth Feroce cycle , no bash please positive inputs I did a lot of cycle never Tren this is why I ask I am debating if the side and value match? before your ask I train for most of my life body fat at 8-9% multiple blood test on cycle and after on TRT off cycle ( by doctor ) give blood 4x times a year! I am 47 and rocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 It depends what you are trying to accomplish, that looks like a pre contest cycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 I am just a extreme old dude ! pretty fit want to get size and shredding more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclet1 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Looking at doing a 3 rd cycle , might follow this one next time, let me know how u make out with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afflicted Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 You're 8% bf and you want to shred? Post some pics bro, sounds like you're already shredded at that body fat. Weight and height? What I see so far, eq at that dose for that long wont do fuck all in my opinion. Up it to at least 600 and run it for 16 weeks. Even at that I find its weak, I like 1200, you'll get something out of it at that in my opinion. Also I don't understand running mast e with Tren ace (different esters) and for only 4 weeks.? I don't follow Seths videos. Can you elaborate why he recommends those doses for that short of time with different esters? Finally its great that you started this thread, but to help you more, pics and stats in a log would be great so we can help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 1:28 PM, Jetpilot said: Hi guys I am back This is my new cycle it is base on Seth Feroce cycle , no bash please positive inputs I did a lot of cycle never Tren this is why I ask I am debating if the side and value match? before your ask I train for most of my life body fat at 8-9% multiple blood test on cycle and after on TRT off cycle ( by doctor ) give blood 4x times a year! I am 47 and rocking I would either drop the sust and add more cyp. if you are doing 250 sust once a week im a fan of injecting sust 3 to 4 times a week to keep blood levels more at bay I also prefer E over C find I retain more water on cyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 I remember you Afflicted ( you are always very helpful ) I am 5'10'' and back to 190 ! my last cycle was a MMA style cycle that I did love! someone here helm me last time and it was incredible I am a older guy 47 who rock the boat lol! I do 4 cycle a year because of my job I run cycle shorter I have multiple blood test this is why I need to be careful with not going to high on dosing I am on TRT from my doctor at 200 MG week this is my back up in case I show up at blood test with a 1000+ test level ( it happen before ) . My last cycle was my first try at Equipose at 600 mg a weeks and I love it! 3 week after stop equipoise I was still feeling hard like a rock This is my MMA style cycle -Test Ent 600 /w -Eq 600 / W -Masteron 600/W -Var 40Mg/day -Proviron 25 mg/day -Adex 1/2 tab EOD -Nolva 20 mg EOD I did run that for 12 weeks I know this is a very mild cycle but my goal was reach no side it all very dry a lot's of drive and cardio and after giving blood I did a blood test and everything was back to normal ( after 2 weeks off) I believe Seth approach it is to cover all angles I am curious about this cycle and we are all different I have already started lol I will pump the Equipose and lower the Tren to 200/W and post back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetpilot said: I remember you Afflicted ( you are always very helpful ) I am 5'10'' and back to 190 ! my last cycle was a MMA style cycle that I did love! someone here helm me last time and it was incredible I am a older guy 47 who rock the boat lol! I do 4 cycle a year because of my job I run cycle shorter I have multiple blood test this is why I need to be careful with not going to high on dosing I am on TRT from my doctor at 200 MG week this is my back up in case I show up at blood test with a 1000+ test level ( it happen before ) . My last cycle was my first try at Equipose at 600 mg a weeks and I love it! 3 week after stop equipoise I was still feeling hard like a rock This is my MMA style cycle -Test Ent 600 /w -Eq 600 / W -Masteron 600/W -Var 40Mg/day -Proviron 25 mg/day -Adex 1/2 tab EOD -Nolva 20 mg EOD I did run that for 12 weeks I know this is a very mild cycle but my goal was reach no side it all very dry a lot's of drive and cardio and after giving blood I did a blood test and everything was back to normal ( after 2 weeks off) I believe Seth approach it is to cover all angles I am curious about this cycle and we are all different I have already started lol I will pump the Equipose and lower the Tren to 200/W and post back Hi talon Thank you for your reply! This is why I like this place , I inject EOD when possible I believe in stable blood as well I am on the aggressive side of the curve it help me My TRT is on Test CYP ( Pfeizer) my believe is that test Cyp is the weakest testosterone no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Musclet1 said: Looking at doing a 3 rd cycle , might follow this one next time, let me know how u make out with it You will hate me for saying this ! but if I was you I will wait 10 cycle before TREN and I am not sure you need this! if I was to restart I will go like only Test at 500/w for like 3 cycle very simple cycle , then Add only one new one ( oil or Oral) every cycle take it as a marathon not a sprint if you do this cycle for your 3 rd cycle what you will do for your 4 th? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 there is not much difference between cyp and e honestly I just found cyp held more water its an ester difference. If you keep your inject current bro you should be fine My TRT is the E was Cyp but again water retention was bad on the CYP. the cyp is usually very common for TRT due to the fact its a longer ester meaning it has a longer half life.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, Jetpilot said: You will hate me for saying this ! but if I was you I will wait 10 cycle before TREN and I am not sure you need this! if I was to restart I will go like only Test at 500/w for like 3 cycle very simple cycle , then Add only one new one ( oil or Oral) every cycle take it as a marathon not a sprint if you do this cycle for your 3 rd cycle what you will do for your 4 th? lol I waited almost 3 years before I touched TREN and I am glad I waited I now will only run Tren once a year ITS the GODZILLA for sure but so are the sides. I believe in what Rich Piana says the better the results on an AAS the more damage it can do if. you abuse it. Tren should never be taken lightly as too many things can go wrong I have a buddy who didn't monitor his water intake and had also developed retarded high BP and actually scarred his kidneys.... great advice jetpilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Talon said: there is not much difference between cyp and e honestly I just found cyp held more water its an ester difference. If you keep your inject current bro you should be fine My TRT is the E was Cyp but again water retention was bad on the CYP. the cyp is usually very common for TRT due to the fact its a longer ester meaning it has a longer half life.. I Normally use Test Cyp after my cycle when I go back to my TRT dosage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 This is a awesome video ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKyDTkIQDtg&t=368s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jetpilot said: This is a awesome video ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKyDTkIQDtg&t=368s amazing video I am going to toss up on of pianos last videos and amazing advice he doled out very very similar to this video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclet1 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Jetpilot said: You will hate me for saying this ! but if I was you I will wait 10 cycle before TREN and I am not sure you need this! if I was to restart I will go like only Test at 500/w for like 3 cycle very simple cycle , then Add only one new one ( oil or Oral) every cycle take it as a marathon not a sprint if you do this cycle for your 3 rd cycle what you will do for your 4 th? lol Hey, appreciate the advice! I like keep it simply too. I think every cycle we do, everyone wants to see the best gains on the next cycle. I agree tren is tough, having night sweats for 2 months can be rough. If using Test E can you pair it with Eqouis? I am not a fan of orals that are hard on the liver, had dbol before at low dosage on first cycle 25mg/d for 5 w with 12 weeks of test E and put on 20lbs. Was my best cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 Any Oral that you use need a blood test half way of your cycle and use Tudca supplements I use now tudca all year round and double the dose on cycle it is a little expensive but it show on my blood test result that my liver stay normal! ( i got a big scared before on bad anavar ) my liver enzyme shoot over 900+ ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 At the end of the day why to use higher dosage? I think the best is the lowest dosage that show result when you don't see result at a dosage go up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglove Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I would keep it simple if you wish to add muscle , 750mg wk Test ( c or e ) 600mg wk Eq 350mg tren ace or 400mg tren e wk ( optional ) On your 6 wk add a oral of your choice ( only if needed or extra boost ) Eat like a animal and sleep like a baby :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethedyke Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 i have to say i love how your organized about your all your drugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclet1 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/4/2018 at 6:38 PM, biglove said: I would keep it simple if you wish to add muscle , 750mg wk Test ( c or e ) 600mg wk Eq 350mg tren ace or 400mg tren e wk ( optional ) On your 6 wk add a oral of your choice ( only if needed or extra boost ) Eat like a animal and sleep like a baby :) Ok cool, going keep it to Test E 500mg w, and 600mg Eq, for an oral would recommend dbol or anvar? Currently eating like beast, sleep about 6 hr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Dipshit Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Musclet1 said: Ok cool, going keep it to Test E 500mg w, and 600mg Eq, for an oral would recommend dbol or anvar? Currently eating like beast, sleep about 6 hr. Dbol all the way if you’re bulking brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclet1 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Nice, bulking is my gain goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglove Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 1:52 AM, Musclet1 said: Ok cool, going keep it to Test E 500mg w, and 600mg Eq, for an oral would recommend dbol or anvar? Currently eating like beast, sleep about 6 hr. Depends what you look like or if your holding to much water, if so use tbol if not use dbol. You can't just take stuff like that , as you have to evaluate your goal and where you are at that poitn before adding a extra aas or upping the dose alwys look in the mirror . good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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