NorthernLifters

9 hours ago, usernamebig said:

In all fairness NorthernLifter, I have not seen these “standards and rules” you speak of that I need to contact a rep and mod prior to posting a review.  I only have read the general board rules. If I had read I wouldn’t have posted anything as I do not have an agenda.  That is my mistake and I apologize. I understand that it looks sketchy. I have explained my reasoning and logic behind what I did and although you do not feel it is logically i did take the time to explain as best I could. I said I would post pics of the different brands I have used to prove I’m not a shill for another lab. Empty bottle of mast beside the full bottle of test e that I’m reluctant to use like I said. I may end up Going to the hospital for a proof of visit if I have time tomorrow as wven though this is an annonymous Internet forum and it shouldn’t bug me it does piss me off to be called a liar

This discussion has gone on long enough so I'm giving a closing statement and this story is closed. 

For some here, who seem like total noobs.its common courtesy to msg your rep if something is wrong with a product, especially if you had a reaction. 

Do you know why sponsors pay us on the big boards 2k a month? Because us staff offer them a fair chance. Or else 2 post trolls would be slamming a competitor lab all day. If that was the case, no labs would pay us and would simply join meso which is the epitome of a shit hole zoo full of shills and trolls. 

Simply because you said you are not a shill or you got other gear, you expect me to believe you? I wouldn't believe anyone with no credibility and 2 posts, whether it was a positive review or negative. But negative causes damage to a lab. And that is where we step in to verify the poster and post, to ensure it's valid. Imagine we let every troll come here and post negative reviews with one posts, how fair is that? I wouldn't need to be a mod at Profesional Muscle and sponsors wouldn't bother paying because they can go to meso for free and get blasted for free. 

The amount of politics in the Canadian game is astonishing, also seems like lack of common sense and conduct doesn't exist, or some people just feel like they can do what they want. Maybe you guys should hop on the big boards and see what happens when someone with 2 posts comes and blasts a very credible lab, topped with the fact that they haven't even contacted the lab yet you had time to come on the board to make a post. That is a joke, the way you handled it is a joke. You're 100% coming off as a shill and you would get fully blasted on other boards. It's actually said that basic conduct will now need to be written into rules because people lack basic common sense and respect. 

@CapeBretonDadBod you don't need to apologize to this clown keto, your assessment was 100% spot on because the 2 post member is nothing but red flags. 

Whats to say he didn't have a reaction from any other gear or a narcotic? We should simply believe him because he said so? Come on, use some common sense 

10 minutes ago, BobTheOldLifter said:

No.  Bad reviews are acceptable, clearly, just not without at least a hint of credibility.   Perfectly understandable. 

Correct, that is exactly what I said. Or else we will have all the haters creating fake accounts and come make our jobs difficult. Not going to happen 

25 minutes ago, KetoMuscles said:

Balls!!

Why not make the title of the thread Good Reviews Only.  How can you say in one sentence we don't censor and then threaten to ban someone if they express anything negative?  That is censorship!  Feel free to voice your opinion but only if it matches ours?

And from a business standpoint if it was my business I would want a place were people were free to express their negative experiences so that i could help address them.  Other people would see the care and attention people get when they have concerns.  Builds trust and relationships.  Would probably bring in new business.  Through random lurkers and referrals when a wrong is righted.  Having a half dozen member pounce and threaten to ban is bad business.

Believe me, I'm no dummy.  I get it.  But members should take the time to "qualify" a poster before assuming everyone has an agenda.  If someone has a bad experience they may just want to be heard.  And reassured they aren't alone.  Let it play out.  Not everyone is going to follow old school street cred methods to resolution.  And not everyone is an agent of darkness.

I'm not going to hijack this any further. It just rubbed me the wrong way today.  

Balls? 

Maybe you should try to read prior to speaking. 

Did I say no negative reviews? I did not. 

I said he has 2 posts and also didn't bothering emailing the rep. All of his responses are red flags.

No posts 

Didn't email rep 

4 months old order 

So called hospital visit but no proof 

No one was refraining anyone from positing but I am not letting this board turn into a meso shit show where people can say whatever they want and there is no moderation. 

If people can't be civil and follow basic conduct then there is no reason to have them here. 

You probably don't understand because you are not a sponsor, nor have you moderated a board. We look at stuff in many angles. And I'll repeat it one last time. Everyone needs to follow basic protocol and respect, if simple rules can't be followed, then you can bet the staff here will ban. 

If we allow all people with no posts start posting negative feedback, the board will turn into a shit show, something that we didn't sign up for. 

Whats stopping people from creating accounts and slandering a lab? You think other sponsors would appreciate it if we don't have some rules set up? Of course they won't. 

You may want to start thinking outside of the box vs thinking we are censoring. You want to see censoring? Go to cjm 

We are the only board that even allowed scammers like taureau a chance to prove his innocence. I don't see any of the other boards reciprocating. 

Would be greatly appreciated if you don't spin my words out of context and let us staff handle it the way we have all agreed on. And rules won't be bent, not for anyone 

20 minutes ago, CapeBretonDadBod said:

@KetoMuscles didn’t mean to come off like a schill maybe my approach was wrong , I would have said that if it was any lab , there is a proper protocol for dealing with issues like this , I apologize for my approach, I’ll work on it.

There's nothing to apologize to him about. Your opinion was correct, as anyone would assume that someone with 2 posts is making negative feedback. 

Screw what others think, as long as you're following the basic rules, feel free to voice your opinion. 

1 hour ago, usernamebig said:

Mast E was from different supplier, no mct oil. I had ordered in April and kept the mast for a prep that I didn’t end up doing so I tacked in onto an off season cycle of test and npp.  I explained why I didn’t email the rep. I went to emerg to check for abscess due to pain and flu symptoms. No abscess was found. He said likely an extreme inflammation of the delt. Where are these review rules With the order of operations? I reread the general rules so and didn’t see that so I was unaware. Northernlifters I felt like I explained my logic behind why I did or didn’t do the things I did in a long post. If I was a shill for another lab I wouldn’t have taken anytime to write these long posts. This is why I don’t post in forums, Facebook or anywhere else and just observe. Say one thing in what I perceive as relatively polite and people nail ya to a goddamn cross. 

All I've said is, your logic made no sense. Who wouldn't report to a lab about discomfort and and pain or reaction from their items and then a hospitalization scenario. 

I've been a mod for 13 years on professional muscle and when I see someone with 2 posts who didn't even bothering emailing the rep but came straight on the board to make a negative post. We ban on spot because people like that clearly show they don't deserve to be on the board. 

1 hour ago, Corey5150 said:

I had some initial discomfort from the change over to MCT, but once I got use to it - it then easily became my favorite oil. I also wouldn't always compare PIP to credibility either - clearly you've never used delatestryl, straight from Shoppers Drug Mart and trust me it wasn't a walk in the park. 

I would normally recommend contacting the rep as you had no idea if he could have made amends or not. However, based on my own use of BT and I'm even currently using the Masteron you speak of, I'd put money on the fact your body isn't use to MCT. 

Judging from his reply, he said he used mast e and it caused less or no discomfort, so that would rule out mct being the issue if one item didn't cause him an issue. 

But to be hospitalized after a vial which is 10 injections I'm assuming, if I was allergic to something, I would most likely be in the hospital right after the first injection, possibly the second. Because maybe after the first shot the body tried to fight it off. 

The problem is rules were broken. Without rules, chaos reigns. I didn't sign up to work in a chaotic environment. 

Rules are clear that if you have an issue, email the rep. If they don't help you, then approach us.

What happened here is, he skipped all rules and came here to blast the lab. And on top of that, it's his second post. No one is going to take you seriously, not on any board. 

All types of reviews are permitted but rules must be followed. We are not cjm here and ban people who post negative reviews. 

But your approach is 100% incorrect and you broke rules. 

I have a hard time understanding why anyone who suffered some type of serious reaction after the first shot would not contact the lab. And then you went to a hospital and still didn't contact the lab? This is unheard of and strange. After the first reaction, I would of contacted the lab, let alone continue injecting and causing myself grief. 

So ya, your post comes across as a total fake because nothing adds up. 

Only reason I didn't ban because I was interested in seeing some type of proof but I see nothing. 

Gamechanger emailed us back saying that you only contacted him today, bt rep was never contacted through all this 

Also they said your order was end of April, which is nearly 5 months ago and that the issue has arisen now? 

I'm only using my logic here as a mod and this all doesn't add up or make any sense. 

Chapter closed 

6 minutes ago, usernamebig said:

I have used BT before in 2017 and had a good experience with their Test 400.  I recently placed an order with them and started to use  their masteron prop.  I was able to make it through one bottle with very uncomfortable PIP.  Once I started using the second one I was getting flu symptoms and very bad PIP.  I got so bad that after a delt shot I could not even move my arm.  I went to the hospital after 2 days as I felt to ill and unable to use my left arm.  It took roughly a week for pain to subside and I was able to train again.  I have a bottle of test 400 that im too afraid to even try.  A buddy of mine used 4 bottles of the test 400 and didn't have a single issue but I will probably steer clear.  I won't be ordering again as it seems to risky given the reaction I had.  I have never had anything like this happen before in the last 10 years

Nice second post 

Did you contact the lab to report this? Did you try to sort it out? Did you bother reading the rules even? Or did you only make an account to come say negative stuff? 

Judging from your post count, I'll put money on it that you did none of the above. So thanks for coming out and go find a new board 

Welcome to NL 

I know for a fact that their stealth idea is brilliant. Ppl is all about safety and safety is priority. Their barcode system is flawless. 

4 hours ago, ElectricRocker said:

@NorthernLifters 

Banner where? We don't have any banner of body tech that says discount. 

Body tech has something on their website and you can take that up with their rep @GameChanger

@baku let's see some homebrew recipes. Us homebrewers always have some epic fail stories, which in turn leads to our success. 

welcome to NL MM403

we are open to ideas,ill discuss with staff

thank you for creating the thread CBDB

start at 1 tab every 4-6 hrs, i remember hnelios back in the day. matter in fact, i did the inject

good labs dont use your standard mct oil,you cna buy a gallon of your typical mct oil but that is not what the big boys use

On 8/20/2019 at 7:05 AM, Absolute power said:

Thanks bro. Is the mct that you buy pharma grade? Does that even matter??

what labs use and mct you are referring to are 2 different  products

damn,you look solid af brother

im sure you smashed it

On 8/13/2019 at 7:08 PM, Deus Pharmaceuticals said:

Thanks to everyone who took their time to hear "my side" of the story. I'm happy to say I'll be sticking around here, you can find my dedicated thread below:

 

Glad to see you stick around 

This board won't allow the stupid politics that were from other boards. And we will always give everyone an opportunity to speak. Hopefully this board unites people in the banner of truth 

Welcome to the NL fam 

22 minutes ago, Dakotahlewis37 said:

Hey guys looking for some input here. I recently spoke to one of the highest ranking Canadian ifbb pros about GH and igf1 lr3, just going to keep this about igf1 here though. I had asked him about peptide igf and he said it’s 100 percent useless in humans and that unless it was increlex it would not do a single thing for us. Anybody care to chime in here?

that doesnt make any sense

igf1lr3 and igf des have both been proven.

Our first winner for the monthly amazon gift card is @Rosconow

each month,based off of rep and other points,the staff will choose a winner. Winner receives a $50 gift card, we can possibly switch cards up if members here want it that way

90% of the stuff are chinese generic, on PM(Professionak Muscle) there are tons of them

they are very hit and miss and inconsistent. HGH is one of those items that when you find a legit source and you can get bloodwork done from them,never let them go

Ive tested Northern Peptides hgh as did 5 people here,thye all scored a perfect 10iu. These were not pre planned testings either btw,people did them randomly

i suggest you email them because thye are domestic aswell

On 8/13/2019 at 8:56 PM, Livin'Large said:

Thanks! Glad to be here!

hope you accept the promotion!

Well done on doing your research and compiling a detailed post. I'll be follow up along. I am also going to promote you because you seem like a knowledgeable fellow and your log will help others 

Thank you to everyone who has been providing they input,