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On 11/14/2018 at 3:57 PM, ABmonkey said:

I'd recommend going with at least 400mg/week test. I'm currently on first cycle and considered going lower; in the end I'm glad I went with the "standard" 500/week. It's pretty mild and I would have been disappointed with a lower dose I think. 

Advice I was given and the advice I would give would be not to use an AI unless you have to. Had I gone off all these cookie cutter first cycles my estrogen would be well in the shitter right now - I'm on week 7 and haven't used an AI yet (I also wasn't a fat bastard at the start of the cycle).

I think the most important thing is you AT LEAST get pre cycle bloods so you know you're baseline.

Mild in what way?

@Talon

Thank you.  When would you start HCG and Nolvadex after your last pin?  Is there a certain amount of time you have to wait or do you start it right away? Saw information on profile thread here, but I was confused as to what "large vs small ester base anabolic steroids" is referring to, and how would I judge what a large vs small is.

 

@bebeav

Thank you. I'm having some issues with nips currently (got them twisted), and I had to go to the doctor because they were super sensitive and they are a little lumpy when it's warm, but if it's cold they go back to normal.  Doc said the tissue was damaged, so it will take time to heal, but it's been about a year and I'm not sure if it's healing or not.  So, therefore, would water retention be the "best" way to judge estrogen (other than bloods)?

 

@Corey5150

Thank you.  Yes, this will be my first cycle.

For sure, diet will be locked in as soon as I have a plan in place.  I thought Test E has a slower reaction, which would let me just one shot per week, or is it still better to split in two shots/week? If it's better to split then 300mg might be better for ease of measuring, but I don't want anything higher than that.

 

@LBJ

Thanks.  Will definitely have some on hand just in case.

 

@TrapsAndLats 

Thanks.  I don't really want to add any other compounds for my first cycle though.

 

@Carbone

Thanks.  Are you talking about running Nolvadex for PCT or during the cycle?

 

@NovaFreak

Thanks.  I don't want anything more than 300mg for my first cycle.  I've read that you can still make great gains from a lower dose when starting out.

I'm currently doing research for a beginner cycle (never touched injectables).  I've found some information regarding the cycle, but very mixed and sometimes contradicting information on PCT.

First a little bit of background information about me.

-26 years old male

-5'9

-between 160-175lbs usually. 

-BF (from a scale that measures through BIA); 9-11% (I know it's not as accurate as other ways of measuring it, but it gives a number to track progress).

-Weightlifting for about 8 years (sometimes taking a couple of weeks off); I never trained specifically for strength, but here are 3 lifts: Bench-265, Squat 315, Deadlift 315.

-I eat fairly clean most of the time, but not enough; on average probably about 2,000 calories.  This is because I haven't set anything in stone.  2 years ago I followed a plan for 2 months (eating about 3,500calories - clean diet) to reach my goal of 175lbs.  I actually weighed in at 178lbs after the program, which was my highest.  I was also pretty lean, the scale said 8% BF.

I also got bloodwork done this summer just to see where my levels are at.  

My goals are not set in stone yet, but I'm thinking I want to get at about 185lbs-190lbs.

 

For a cycle from what I've seen, read, and watched online you want to start with smaller amounts, then build up (if you want to do more cycles).

Most people recommended Test Enanthate from 250-500mg/week, anywhere from 8-16 weeks.

I was thinking of doing 250mg/week for 10 weeks.

Now the tricky part is some people say because it's such a low dose and only 10 weeks, you don't need to run an AI along, but you should have some in case of noticing high estrogen levels.

Others say to run 12.5mg Aromasin ED (which seems overkill for me).

 

Now PCT is the most confusing part.  I haven't seen dosages or what type of compounds to run for this.  They were mostly aimed at expert cycles.

The 2 compounds that were suggested for other beginner cycles (no dosages though) are HCG and Clomid.  Also, there was contradicting information on when to start PCT, some said 3 days after the last injection, others 3 weeks.

 

Would appreciate it if someone could shed some light on PCT, and AI (if needed during cycle).

 

Thanks for reading!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

20 hours ago, CrazySteroids said:

welcome to NL 

Thank you, found out about this forum from @MSCLMAMA