Physlifter Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 So I gave two bottles of body tech tb500 left over after my wife finished her cycle (will get into that some other day). I have a 2.5 month tennis elbow that's been an absolute bitch to heal for me. Me, of all people, is having a hard time getting it better, and has completely screwed my training. So long story short, I'm doing 1 mg EOD for 10 shots (5 mg per bottle) to see how it goes. Direct injection into the right lateral elbow. Why there? Because bro Science. I will absolutely notice a change if any as my tennis elbow has not budged in relief, and considering I'm going to need to order more stuff soon for the summer shred I might as well do a log of my favorite lab. So I did my first shot tonight. 1 mg (1 ml in bottle so 20 iu) using insulin syringe right into crease between forearm. Let's see how it goes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosconow Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Hey bud, i've used tb500 and bpc157 together for various injuries and they do work to a degree (even better if used together imo). But i got serious about my injury recovery and did a small investment in physio equipment, a ultrasound and tems/ ems machines. No regrets. They work way better than the peptides for me.... just sayin. The company is mywellcare.ca 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physlifter Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Rosconow said: Hey bud, i've used tb500 and bpc157 together for various injuries and they do work to a degree (even better if used together imo). But i got serious about my injury recovery and did a small investment in physio equipment, a ultrasound and tems/ ems machines. No regrets. They work way better than the peptides for me.... just sayin. The company is mywellcare.ca Dude You know I'm a physiotherapist right? Appreciate the honesty and it's the right suggestions 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorbate Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 12 hours ago, Physlifter said: So I gave two bottles of body tech tb500 left over after my wife finished her cycle (will get into that some other day). I have a 2.5 month tennis elbow that's been an absolute bitch to heal for me. Me, of all people, is having a hard time getting it better, and has completely screwed my training. So long story short, I'm doing 1 mg EOD for 10 shots (5 mg per bottle) to see how it goes. Direct injection into the right lateral elbow. Why there? Because bro Science. I will absolutely notice a change if any as my tennis elbow has not budged in relief, and considering I'm going to need to order more stuff soon for the summer shred I might as well do a log of my favorite lab. So I did my first shot tonight. 1 mg (1 ml in bottle so 20 iu) using insulin syringe right into crease between forearm. Let's see how it goes! Gh works better than peptides. For the same what you likely paid for peptides, one kit of good gh 2 iu a day till kit is gone would have worked better, with rehab, which of course you know what to do there, so no direct training and such. i had tennis elbow for likely 4 years on and off, not until I used gh for my colon did it go away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorbate Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Rosconow said: Hey bud, i've used tb500 and bpc157 together for various injuries and they do work to a degree (even better if used together imo). But i got serious about my injury recovery and did a small investment in physio equipment, a ultrasound and tems/ ems machines. No regrets. They work way better than the peptides for me.... just sayin. The company is mywellcare.ca Ultrasound would do something, tens, well pretty much it just relieves pain. i own a tens machine as well. But yes, peptides don’t really do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosconow Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Physlifter said: Dude You know I'm a physiotherapist right? Appreciate the honesty and it's the right suggestions No, i didn't know you were a physio. Now i do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physlifter Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Two shots in - no change in symptoms that would be related I believe. The sharp pain is now gone but at work i've been hitting it hard with pretty intense ultrasound, interferential current, suction cup soft tissue release. Its still sore with terminal end extension right into the left origin of the muscle, and any major grasping still gives me a shot. But i'll keep on the good fight and remain optimistic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnyman Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Did you start a different exercise, or increase your range of motion. Has your weight increased on exercises? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physlifter Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 So it's been a week, I've taken a shot every other day, kept up my ultrasound and interferential current on my elbow. I've done the same biomechanical awareness and avoided lifting and pulling with the arm. Truth...I'm feeling better. Like way better. 50-60% better. I can extend my arm now without pain. I can make a fist without pain. I can grab my coffee cup or light objects without pain. It's fatigued with an ache, but I've yet to train shoulders with laterals. Adding tb500 is really the only new thing I've done in the last two months and there's been large changes, so I have to attribute it to that. Another bottle to go. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLifters Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Peptides are a gift. Tens machines done nothing for me. Mini cycles of tb and bpc done miracles. I am on pharma gh and there is not the slightest competition. Peptides out due everything for me, aside from surgery which I refuse to do. Usually I do a 3 week blitz and works like magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis1891 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Commenting to keep tabs and see how this goes. I’ve got wicked tennis elbow as well, and I’m scheduled for that minor surgery and prp. Thinking about adding tb500 as well, so I really want to know how this works out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physlifter Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 So it's 80% better. I had to stop the therapy for a week and a half. I have zero evidence of this but I believe it upped my test levels. I'm on my trt 200 dose, get bloods done and usually my ranges are around 500-550. Well this time they came back over 800. Either I pulled more in the barrel (probably did) and/or the tb500 also raised test and threw off my readings. So I have to take off until the next Monday to redo my bloods and see wtf happened. I finally did get my first decent shoulder workout in and I could hold a 30 lbs dumbbell and do laterals! Was really happy with it! Still plugging at work but literally as soon as I get my labs done again next week I'm back on to finish my bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strength4dayz Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 On 1/22/2019 at 5:45 PM, Physlifter said: So it's 80% better. I had to stop the therapy for a week and a half. I have zero evidence of this but I believe it upped my test levels. I'm on my trt 200 dose, get bloods done and usually my ranges are around 500-550. Well this time they came back over 800. Either I pulled more in the barrel (probably did) and/or the tb500 also raised test and threw off my readings. So I have to take off until the next Monday to redo my bloods and see wtf happened. I finally did get my first decent shoulder workout in and I could hold a 30 lbs dumbbell and do laterals! Was really happy with it! Still plugging at work but literally as soon as I get my labs done again next week I'm back on to finish my bottles. Did you get back to finishing the bottle? How’s the elbow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physlifter Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Strength4dayz said: Did you get back to finishing the bottle? How’s the elbow? Yes I did! elbow is 99.9%! Basically the only discomfort I have is when I push on the lateral epicondyle (bone). Otherwise all my training is back to full swing! TB500 works boys and gals! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strength4dayz Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Physlifter said: Yes I did! elbow is 99.9%! Basically the only discomfort I have is when I push on the lateral epicondyle (bone). Otherwise all my training is back to full swing! TB500 works boys and gals! That’s unreal. I’m gonna have to give it a shot. I’ve got some bunged up shoulders from years of rugby. I had a thickness tear of my supraspinatus tendon which has been has never been the same since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physlifter Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Strength4dayz said: That’s unreal. I’m gonna have to give it a shot. I’ve got some bunged up shoulders from years of rugby. I had a thickness tear of my supraspinatus tendon which has been has never been the same since. Keep in mind it's not going to rebuild tissue that's been ripped to shreds. I believe TB500 just accelerated the pro inflammatory process in healing my elbow. I have no data also with me doing direct injects into my elbow too with insulin needles. I could of done it in the gut, but since insulin needles are pretty much same size as my acupuncture needles and I hit those spots as well (knowing there is no huge vessles or nerves there to injure) I figured why not? I'm content though...and should I injure myself again and I hit a plateau in the natural healing processes i'll absolutely get it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis1891 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 On 1/22/2019 at 3:45 PM, Physlifter said: So it's 80% better. I had to stop the therapy for a week and a half. I have zero evidence of this but I believe it upped my test levels. I'm on my trt 200 dose, get bloods done and usually my ranges are around 500-550. Well this time they came back over 800. Either I pulled more in the barrel (probably did) and/or the tb500 also raised test and threw off my readings. So I have to take off until the next Monday to redo my bloods and see wtf happened. I finally did get my first decent shoulder workout in and I could hold a 30 lbs dumbbell and do laterals! Was really happy with it! Still plugging at work but literally as soon as I get my labs done again next week I'm back on to finish my bottles. You mentioned that the tb500 may have messed up your testosterone numbers, and you were going to look into it. What did you find? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physlifter Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 11 hours ago, Davis1891 said: You mentioned that the tb500 may have messed up your testosterone numbers, and you were going to look into it. What did you find? I stopped it for two weeks, retook my bloods, and everything came back bang on. Coincidence or not?? Unsure but my endo was happy with the levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverwas Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Going to try something similar soon...I am thinking 2mg TB-500 5x/w and 500mcg of BPC-157/d for the first few weeks and then cut that in half for a few more weeks. Dealing with tendonitis and other chronic issues so I am hoping this helps. Thanks for posting your experience @Physlifter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Hi @Physlifter I have just read through your experiences. Thanks so much for sharing. I have had chronic tennis elbow for 5 years and am about to start bpc and tb500. did you inject locally into your forearm or elbow? Are there any exercises you recommend for improving tennis elbow as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Maybe @Physlifterwill chime in but what I do from my experience is you inject sub-q as close to the injury as you can. My protocol is twice per day morning and evening. CBDB NorthernLifters Admin Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physlifter Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 6:59 AM, Kyle said: Hi @Physlifter I have just read through your experiences. Thanks so much for sharing. I have had chronic tennis elbow for 5 years and am about to start bpc and tb500. did you inject locally into your forearm or elbow? Are there any exercises you recommend for improving tennis elbow as well? Apologies somehow I missed this and i'm suuuuuuuuuuuuper late on responding!! I injected with insulin needle as close to site as possible as long as you're not injecting into the ulnar nerve on the inside and into the tissue you should be ok. There's a ton of tendons in there and it may flip around, cause a quick spasm, just don't go too crazy. It did help improve quicker but you still need to do your essential exercises for tennis elbow; band/weight movements for flexion/extension/supination/pronation. You need to see how it developed, what can be done differently to take the load off the tissue, and train smarter. Is it a huge gamer changer? That's up to you and your wallet. If you needed it for a specific event that requires faster healing then it would probably be of benefit, or post surgical or major chronic issue. However, the essentials do work with moist heat and stretching with the exercises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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