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I think if you're jumping back on gear or increasing the dose you should be slightly increasing your protein intake to account for the added nitrogen retention - if your gear use has been steady for a while then I'd keep it consistent. if your goal is to increase muscle mass you need to be in a calorie surplus, so I'd increase your carbs mildly around your training sessions. However, I'd lower carbs on non training days (as long as recovery is still happening - if not, then keep them consistent all the time). Theres no 1 answer anyone can give you, as its completely dependent on your current diet, digestion, training intensity and recoverable ability - but in a very generalized answer, yes I'd increase your carbs. If you're so worried about the water retention then why'd you choose dbol? You could have gone with something like primo or anavar and not have had to worry about that. But you can also just keep your diet under control and use an AI to control estrogen and that should be enough to keep water retention in check.

Personally for myself i love a man with nice big arms and a big chest that i can cuddle into...nice ass helps too no flat asses please lol...ive never been attracted to men who dont workout sexually it wont do anything for me...??

The 7-day DNP fat loss plan:The 7-day DNP fat loss plan involves a moderate to high dosage of DNP for fat burning. The DNP fat loss plan involves a 7-day on, 7-day off approach with four distinct phases. Most athletes using DNP follow this type of cycle. The phases are as follows: Phase 1: The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase.Phase 2: The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase.Phase 3: The 14-day DNP Phase.Phase 4: The 2-day Post-DNP Phase.Phase 1. The 3-day Carb-depletion phasePhase One has a three-day duration and begins the four days preceding the ingestion of DNP. The purpose of this phase is to deplete muscle-glycogen content by restricting carbohydrates. This is achieved through a Ketogenic style diet.Kcals should be restricted to 10-12 times bodyweight in lbs. And carbohydrates should be restricted to less than 60g/day. Protein is consumed at 1 gram per pound of bodyweight or higher and the remaining dietary calories should come from fat.This phase lasts exactly 3 days, and will reduce muscle-glycogen levels so that the body is forced to rely on fat as fuel more readily when you start your DNP cycle.Phase 2 The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization PhaseThis is a new concept for DNP dieting. During the past three days, the athlete has restricted carbohydrates and as a direct consequence T4-T3 conversion is slowed down resulting in reduced T3 levels. This is bad for the DNP phase, as you need enough active T3 to last throughout the entire 7-day on DNP phase.Day four of the DNP cycle involves a mega-carbohydrate meal at mid-afternoon (4-6PM) designed to create a massive insulin spike and re-normalize T4-T3. This concept has been extrapolated from ketogenic diets and has been shown to dramatically increase serum concentrations of T3.Day 4 involves Keto eating until the Mega-carb meal. Then in the late afternoon, at least circa 250g of carbohydrates must be consumed to create an insulin spike. Any sugar (fructose, sucrose, maltose etc.) is fair game. Fructose in particular is good because it primarily re-fills liver glycogen which is directly involved in T4-T3 conversion. (Empty liver glycogen signals the thyroid to decrease T4-T3 conversion).As a side-note, a 250g carb-meal after three days of Keto dieting creates a more pronounced insulin spike than would a 250g carb-meal after three days of normal eating.Kcals during Phase 2 should be kept at 15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs can be calculated by the athlete. The only carb intake on day 4 should be the 250g carb-meal.Phase 3 The 14-Day DNP PhaseThe first two days of actual DNP consumption are the most important to follow correctly. During Days 1 and 2 of the actual DNP portion of the cycle, it must be determined if the athlete will have an allergic reaction to DNP.Day 1: 200 mg of DNP is ingestedDay 2: 200 mg of DNP is ingestedAt this point the dieter should be able to assess if an allergic reaction has occurred. A DNP-stimulated allergic reaction will lead to swelling in as little as 1 to 2 days time. Approximately 10% of athletes will have such a reaction. The unfortunate few who experience this type of a reaction must terminate the cycle immediately. Benadryl or Ketotifen (Anti-histamines) can be used to treat mild symptoms. Obviously a doctor should be consulted should the symptoms prove more severe.Day 3: Dieters making it to day 3 of the DNP phase have the option of increasing their dosage. The normal dosage for beginners is 400mg DNP/day. Even an amount this small should provide outstanding results. A word of caution. DO NOT TAKE MORE, if you are not experienced with DNP-use. More advanced users may chose to go higher based on past experience. The 400mg/day dosage is maintained from Day 3 through Day 9(Exactly 7 days). The last dose is taken on Day 9. Supplementation and Nutritional Protocol for a DNP cycle:1. An ECA stack is beneficial while on a DNP cycle as it as it acts as an anorectant. DNP raises Neuro-peptide Y levels in the brain, which is directly linked to increased hunger. Consuming 75-100mg total of ephedrine alkaloids/day should be sufficient to suppress appetite. PPA (Nor-ephedrine) should NOT be used as it causes lethargy when combined with DNP. 2. Anti-oxidants. Due to the DNP induced rapid combustion of fats, free-radical production skyrockets up-wards. To combat this, anti-oxidants must be used. Anti-oxidants are the single most important supplement to take on a DNP cycle.a) Fat-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin E: 1000mgs/day b) Water-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin ? 2-3g/dayc) Alpha Lipoic acid: 600-1000mgs/dayDual-anti-oxidant: BOTH fat & water-soluble actually re-cycles other anti-oxidants.3. Glycerol: Although optional, glycerol is often consumed at 15ml's 3X/day. Glycerol increases hydration for many athletes.No additional supplements are really required other than these three. All the rest you have read in various DNP articles are more for peace of mind than improved functionality. I consider them overkill.4. Water: Not a supplement, but an absolute necessity.DNP causes sweating and can be incredibly dehydrating. Dehydration is the NUMBER ONE cause of most DNP problems and deaths. Excessive dehydration results in over-heating. Dieters who do not replenish fluids properly while on a DNP cycle could die. The consensus among athletes is that at least two gallons of water must be consumed daily.5. EAT FRUIT while on your DNP cycle.Fruit for some reason has been found to greatly reduce the lethargy associated with a DNP cycle. It also has a high water content, therefore it helps to keep the dieter hydrated. Watermelon is an obvious recommendation.6. Dietary intake: There are several schools of thought on this matter, but sticking to the old standard always works.Kcals should be kept anywhere from 10-15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs should be kept at around 20% fat, 30% protein and 50% carbs. (Changing the ratios in favor of more carbs and protein w/ less fat will result in a more fat loss but nothing special. Also, remember that more carbohydrates means more heat.) Take for example the 220 lb (100 kg) bodybuilder. He would consume anywhere from 2200 to 3300Kcal /day (Depending on his appetite control).WHAT NOT TO DO on a DNP cycle.a) Do not under any circumstances consume alcohol or ANY type of diuretic while on a DNP cycle. Alcohol and diuretics will dehydrate you and can cause SERIOUS problems. b) Do not remain in a hot environment without replenishing fluid loss due to perspiration. This too can also cause SERIOUS problems. c) Do not begin with a high dosage of DNP if you are a novice. This is just asking for a trip to the ICU.The half-life of 2,4 Dinitrophenol is 36 hours. So, after 36 hours, there is only 50% of the DNP remaining in your system. Therefore, 72 hours later 25% remains. Then 12.5% remains after 108 hours. After 5 days (120 hours), there's roughly 9% of the DNP left in your body that you had on Day 9. This DNP concentration is low-enough to allow you to begin Phase 4 of the cycle -- the 2-day Post-DNP phase -- without compromising glycogen synthesis rates. Kcals during Days 10-14 should remain the same as during days 3-9.Phase 4: The 2 day Post DNP Phase.The whole purpose of this phase is to get muscle-glycogen levels back to normal. The Ketogenic carb-up can be used as a sort of template for this phase.After Phases two and three, muscle-glycogen levels are depressed and need to be replenished.Day 15: Carb-intake should be 7g/Kg of LBM (lean body mass = bodyweight minus body fat.) So assuming a 220 lb bodybuilder has 0% body fat, lol, he would consume 700 g of Carbs. Protein-intake remains at 1g/lb and fat is restricted as low as possible.The focus on day 1 should be on High-GI foods like Fat-free Ice-cream and all the other non-fat high sugar desserts. Calories should be around 4000 for the 220-lb bodybuilder -- in other words, 18X bodyweight in lbs.Drastically restricting fat is CRITICAL here, as the body is still burning fat for fuel as you replenish your glycogen stores. In essence, the dieter is still losing fat while carbing up.Day 16: Muscle-glycogen has increased, so carb-intake should be decreased from day one’s 7g/Kg to only 5g/Kg of LBM. That would be 500g for our 220-lb bodybuilder. Protein is 1g/lb again. Fat remains as low as possible. Kcals for the dieter are reduced to 3000 Kcal range, or around 14X Bodyweight in lbs. The focus of Day 2 should be low-GI foods like vegetables, milk, lean meats etc.Additional Precautions:Dieters feeling extremely nauseated or who vomit during a cycle should discontinue use immediately and not restart for at least 36 hours. Dieters should carry a pocket thermometer at all times. If body temperature rises above 102 Fahrenheit then the dosage should be lowered or the cycles should be terminated. Additionally, the dieter should take a very cold bath to lower the temperature. In addition to water, V8 juice should be consumed. Drinking gallons of water depletes the body of electrolytes pretty badly predisposing the dieter to shock, nausea, lethargy, and even death. V8 is the best for replenishing electrolytes as it contains 950mg of potassium per 8oz compared to Gatorade’s 35mg of potassium in 8oz. Massive amounts of fruits and sweets should be consumed if one becomes nauseated or vomits – i.e. force feed yourself. Dieters should never allow themselves to become overheated on a DNP cycle. Always stay next to a fan and keep the air conditioner on. Do not attempt a DNP cycle if you work out doors in a warm climate or another warm environment like a kitchen. Even at low doses this can build up and be potentially dangerous. There are two versions of DNP – regular and crystalline. Know which one you are taking. When taking the crystalline DNP caps, never take more than 200mg at once if you've never used it before. Even if you are used to it, it is still much safer to spread the dosage throughout the day. Crystalline DNP is much faster acting and can rapidly elevate temperature.Post-Steroid Cycle Use of DNPOne of the primary causes of muscle breakdown after a steroid cycle is suppressed TSH. Anabolic steroids suppress TSH, which in turn lowers T3 and T4 production by the thyroid gland. The reduction in TSH is one reason that anabolic steroids are such excellent muscle builders.Soon after the completion of a steroid cycle, TSH up-regulates, which in turn super-stimulates the thyroid. This excess stimulation causes the thyroid to produce above normal levels of T3 and T4. This increase in thyroid hormones is highly catabolic and is the main reason why people lose muscle post-cycle.Athletes have learned that they need to restrict T3 production post cycle to prevent muscle loss. A novel approach to achieving this goal is the use of DNP. About 80% of the body’s endogenous T3 is produced from the metabolically inactive T4 to the metabolically active T3. The de-iodinase enzyme is responsible for this conversion. It literally cleaves off an iodine molecule.By ingesting 200mg DNP/day, the athlete can correct the over stimulated Thyroid, returning T3 levels back to normal. DNP directly blocks the production of T3 from T4 via the de-iodinase enzyme.As a bonus, the reduction in your ATP stores because of the DNP is counter acted by an increase in the oxidation of triglycerides as an energy source. The benefit is the elimination of any potential fat-gain from the low post-cycle testosterone levels. And as DNP is non-hormonal, it has no effect on HPTA recovery.After cessation of DNP use post-cycle, the athlete will reap the benefits of the "Anabolic Rebound Effect" which further lends credence to the use of DNP as a post-cycle ancillary for the elimination of any post-cycle muscular losses.Macro’s DNP Supplements200mg alpha lipoic acid 3x a day with meals 1200-1500mg magnesium in 2-3 divided doses. 2-3000mg vitamin C1200IU of vitamin E 200mcg of selenium. 1000-2000mg of calcium (can’t take it with the magnesium, though. Take it before bed) Melatonin if you can’t sleep and it is also one of the best and cheapest anti-oxidants. 50mg of zinc a day one iron tab as hemoglobin is a protein as well. A potassium gluconate tab or two a day Taurine at 3g a day. Glutamine at 15g-20g a day . 1 table spoon glycerol 3 x a day at least 2 gallons of water a fan to point at your head while sleeping- or at work- basically anytime you can point a fan at you 500mg grapeseed extract 300mg cranberry extract 600-900mg of green tea a good mulit vitaminEC+1g of tyrosine 3x per day and 20mg of yohimbine topically 2x per day- for added energy and fat burning effects

Deca Dick... it's real!!!

Ass!! Lululemon is a gift from heaven

Adding Deca will surely help you add some quality mass that would otherwise be fat gain on only 400mg test. I say go for it. Im running Deca right now!!

Metabolism is a tricky matter. Just like DNA, metabolic rate is unique to each person, meaning that boosting your metabolism is going to be different for everyone, too. Some people experience a slow metabolism (meaning fewer calories are burnt) because of a sluggish thyroid or poor diet choices, while others enjoy a fast metabolism (meaning more calories used) due to a healthy diet and lots of exercise. But regardless of how your metabolism naturally functions, there are certain things you can do to help it along. If you're looking to boost your metabolism, try incorporating these seven foods into your diet. Blueberries Providing 14% of your daily fiber intake in a single cup, blueberries will make you feel fuller and boost your body's ability to convert nutrients into some serious energy! Start your morning by spreading some tasty blueberry chia seed jam on toast or pop a few blueberry crumb bars into your bag for an afternoon pick-me-up. Almonds They may be small, but almonds are packed with nutrients. A handful will supply plenty of fiber, protein, and healthy fats, which can help you burn calories and manage your weight. Roast some almonds for a quick snack. Coconut Oil Coconut oil is made up of medium-chain triglycerides, which is a kind of lipid that rapidly metabolizes in the body. This leads to a longer lasting feeling of satiety—in other words, you'll be less likely to start snacking an hour later. For a healthy dessert option that features coconut oil, try some gluten-free banana bread. Cayenne Pepper A popular spice, cayenne pepper can help to speed up your metabolism. It contains capsaicin, a compound that creates heat within the body to rapidly convert calories into energy. You can also find capsaicin in other spices, such as chili pepper. Spice things up with some pumpkin seed salsa—it makes for a great dip with crackers or pita bread. Avocados From reducing stress to improving skin collagen, avocados are important for overall health. But did you know that this superfood might help your metabolism too? Research has suggested that monounsaturated fats, which avocados contain, can reduce metabolic syndrome—a series of conditions that affect blood sugar, blood pressure, and belly fat. To get your fill of avocados, here's a great chlorella guacamole recipe—a guaranteed hit at your next potluck. Whey Protein Amino acids give whey protein its metabolism-boosting power. Whey protein contains all nine essential amino acids, which are the building blocks of protein. Protein builds muscle, and muscle burns a significant amount of calories. Power up after a workout or start the day with a protein açaí bowl. Water One of the best ways to boost metabolism is simply drinking water. According to a Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism study, drinking water can boost the metabolic rate by 30%. So, whenever you have one of the healthy foods listed above, be sure to wash it down with a glass of water. You may not be able to control every aspect that affects your body's metabolism, but by doing regular exercise and including more of these foods in your diet, you can start to influence it naturally and effectively.

Ok its now been day 10 on 400mg of the dnp temperature has gone up a bit but not sweating that bad at night with this dose so i am going with 500mg max dose for the next 3 days than i will be coming off i was 169lbs and weighed last night at 162lbs... loving the results so far...?

Thanks OntarioDude

Thank you for the welcome I was told about this new board by a good guy named 3ml. Thanks for having me.

Hey, finally stopping by and signed up here. Been crazy busy. Some of you probably know who I am, some don't....but that's okay too :). I'll try to be bit more active than I've been past few months but honestly I like to just step back lately. Training hasn't been great since dealing with some injuries but focused again to hit some new PRs by next summer is the goal so going to try my best at it. That said, if anyone wants to talk feel free to PM me since I'll get notification and reply.

Hi Crazyguy Excellent work & congratulations going from 210 to 185 at 13-15%. I know how tempting it can be to want to start bulking and running Deca after all this time and hard work. I'm in a similar situation and can't wait to start bulking plus the Deca (NPP) will be a nice treat for our joints. Is there any chance you might want to get down a little more first before you start, perhaps closer to 10-12%? Either way - good luck, OD

Vag. If I had to pick between the two then probably ass. For both, bigger is not necessarily better though... quality of quantity any day. ? Overall, a healthy & fit body with some muscles is probably even better overall than either - attitude and personality is huge as well. For the females on the forum, I'm sorry if this discussion bothers anyone - we realize this is silly, we're just being guys after all. Perhaps, you can adivse if chest, ass, abs, shoulders, back, etc. are more important to you. OD

both ?

I put in an order with the new rep last week and everything was perfect. He answered my questions and a couple days later I had a professionally packaged delivery of Sust 350, Test Base, Deca, Aromasin amd Anadrol. I did my first shot of sust 350 today and it was painless, no issues and I've taken some anadrol before my last 2 workouts. It's still early so obvisouly I haven't seen any results yet but I'm excited. The only regret I have is not buying more lol.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/blogs/the-lab-supplement-school/11503-supplements-you-should-be-taking-based-on-your-age.html

You won't be disappointed brother, very solid lab.

Just put in my first order with this lab....let's see how it goes

So today is officially day 1 of the new plan, and since these are the lowest doses I'll post them up. Today the gear will be 15iu of humalog spread throughout the day. Test Enth 150mg/Npp 100mg/Eq 150mg. And tonight we'll be training legs. This is a muscle that the more I learn to train them effectively the more I enjoy it - its also the area in which I need some improvement so I enjoy seeing and making progress happen! We'll also be starting 6iu GH per day here shortly. I'm most excited/hesitant to be using this. I don't buy into the mindset that all generics are garbage - are they as good as pharm grade... lol doubt it. But theres never going to be a time when I'm ok with spending 1k+ on GH a month, so the hell with it lets give it a go lol I've had a couple friends who have enjoyed the prior nouveaus and found them on par or at least very similar to other high end GH. in Canada. ALSO worth noting, I've only run GH once before at 2-4iu per day for like a month - with no idea what I was doing at the time. So I'm going to be giving my full honest review of my experience with it with really nothing to compare it to (I've used mk and peps - found them both a waste of time).

Anyone use him as a coach? i used to power lift when I was younger but too old now. I have been pushing a lot heavier weights lately though and maybe thinking of going for some new PR one last time before I end up in a pine box

A GREAT READ FOR WOMAN: DONT BE SCARED TO TAKE TESTOSTERONE MANY MANY BENEFITS TO IT....

Moles / skin tags should be watched closely. I'd watch how much tanning you are doing. End result should not give you skin Cancer. Side note - Just placed an order. BT has always worked well for me. Looking forward to the next quick blast.

Great article on dnp Olympic. I have used Dnp once before and dropped a lot of bodyfat in a very small amount of time it works extremely good but just like it says make sure you have extra sheets handy at night for your bed or even put towels down cause damn do you ever sweat....

I do notice more brown moles on my skin yes. Keep an eye on It.