Francis "Frank" Castle

@ElectricRocker Thanks buddy. Man, I must have been half asleep at the wheel when I was responding to you guys lol...

@LBJ Thank-you much...I was sure I had responded to say thanks and just realized I hadn't so correcting my mistake, apologies! better late than never :{)=

I'm doing Test E eod and that seems to be working well for me. I think one of the biggest take aways for me, out of everything I have learned so far, is that everyone is different and although you can apply general knowledge broadly, and you can observe safety protocols that are going to be safe no matter what, and someone like me who is starting out and just trying to learn the basics to apply as the starting point for solid decisions and I think that is the best way to start and feel comfortable personalizing your protocol, IMHO, , but for everything else it comes down to personal preference and how your body reacts. There's literally no right or wrong on those aspects that don't fall into safety or the generally accepted info, or info we know to be 100% factual. After all of the research/reading I did, I was still up in the air on how often I was going to pin. What ended up being the determining thing was watching a Dave Palumbo video where he was talking about the different esters and half lifes and how even when he first started it was confusing as hell and he had a hard time deciphering the BS "bro science" from what was good "bro science or logic" info. He said that it suddenly just dawned on him one day that aside from everything else, if you are speaking only to or apply this only to Test, then regardless of what ester it is, it's still Test, at the end of the day they all are. So based on that, his own personal preference is to pin eod because at that point the esters really don't matter much as once you get going and your levels are stable, it's just a fluid continuation (bad pun, ok, lolol) and at eod there's no real danger of peaks and troughs really, at least not to any really noticeable extent. he also mentioned that some guys carry this to the extreme and pin every day but that he never felt there was sufficient additional bonus or benefit from that to be bothered!

Sam over at Live Like a Viking YT channel did a video about this and he is using 1.5iu/day, 5 days on 2 off of the expensive stuff Omnitrope...compared it to one of the Rawz suppliers, which is likely Chinese I would think, and to MK677 Which is Better? MK 677, Pharmaceutical, or Generic HGH?

According to Dr Rand McClain, who seems to be pretty highly respected, and after watching a boatload of his vids I would say he is quite knowledgeable. He said flat out, in all the years he;s been doing this he has never had a single patient that didn't require an AI, if evn only in a very small prophylactic dose. Not 1 single one!. I'll link one of his vids where he talks about this but his vids are great content so I've watched all I can find. Dr. Rand McClain - Ask The Doc

Ya me too. I don't know why I put 1 1/2" but then posted after to correct. I knew I only use 1" must have been having a "senior" moment, lololol...

Thanks man. And definitely I am seeing that. I hadn't used it before, or any injectable for that matter, so when I bought my first lot of supplies I ordered the 25 Gauge because thats what everyone was saying in general. Next order though I'll be buying the smaller ones and using the bigger just to draw!

Thanks. I also realized that I typo'd. Not sure why I said 1 1/2" pins for my Delts as it's actually only 1". A 1 1/2" i'm pretty sure for me right now might bottom out, maybe not, who knows, but it's 1" I'm using. Ahhhhh, a man after my own heart. Wife #1 was crazy wild like that but #2 isn't into it, although wife #2 is a real lightweight when it comes to alcohol and anything more than 2 drinks and she does a 180 degree about face but I know from learning the hard way that it's best not to let that get out of hand as usually feelings are not good the next day. A few B-days ago she had a little too much and the ride home on the TTC was pretty epic lol, enough that the driver was looking in his mirror more than at the tracks lololol

Today will be pin #8 for me and nuthin. No redness, no soreness, nada. 25 gauge pin 1 1/2" in my Delts alternating side to side. Really easy to hit the mark as well as I have ink on both side so I just reference that and keep in the right area. BTW, I read an article about using one of these to smooth out any minor scar tissue that might come from repeated pins in the same area. Anyone know anything about these Beastie Ball things or anything similar? Is it even necessary?

That has started with me now too, pretty consistently....poor wifey has been missing out a while as my levels were so low for me I had 0 interest. Nothing to do with her at all which is always hard to explain because the optics are just plain awful. But for me one of the things I promised her was that the second my levels started coming up again and I was ready she'd be the 2nd one to know about it lol..... Sgt Castle come to attention, now get in there and make your country proud.....bwahahahahaha

Thanks man!

Lol....Ya hafta wonder why, whenever the topic of a 2 tier medical system comes up in Canada, the screeching classes get all up in arms about it and start shouting it down. It's absurd. The fact that it isn't just something you can go ahead and do is retarded. If I am a doc and I want to run my office based on my picking and choosing who I see, a right I SHOULD have, and giving paying customers priority, FOR TIMING ONLY, ie paying will get you an appt sooner but no better care obviously, and most docs I know, you couldn't buy your way in if they don't want you as a patient, and if they were allowed to do this they would stick to that even more because they would have plenty of other options. I said "should" because as basic a concept as that is, in this day and age, we are seeing examples time and time again where that isn't the case and business owners are pilloried for exercising their right of "We have the right to refuse service to anyone". Sadly it seems that the people condemned for this all fit a very specific sort of demographic while others who do not seem able to do whatever they want in this area free from any interference! I think the bottom line is that because our govt so habitually and badly mistreats physicians, of all types, they do not want to release any of the control they have because docs may just flip them the single finger salute, go off and do their own thing, and then what right! My old Doc in Toronto was awesome, one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet. He was my doc for over 20 years, 10 of which was in 1 straight stretch. He spoke to me more as a colleague than anything else because a big part of the relationship we had was his trust in me that if I came to him with something new in regards to my treatment, I would have already done the legwork, it would never be a frivolous request, and he knew he only needed to quickly fact check my info and not do all the research himself. That worked perfectly! Unfortunately, the neighborhood I lived in, and the Doc's practice was in, became more and more populated, for the most part, with a certain demographic of immigrant who, as most do, settle in these pockets all huddled together. As a result, his practice was overwhelmed over the years to the point where it went from being walk in and see him to walk in and hopefully get an appt in a month! He told me in confidence that he literally could not turn anyone away because if he did all manner of hammer dropping would befall him from cries of racism, to xenophobia, to poor ethical standards etc etc. All of it pure nonsense but that is what is going on. He has 2 kids in private University in the UK so you know he's not doing anything to jeopardize his practice. He had to hire reception people from the same community because people came in and either didn't speak or refused to speak English. Big, shaved head white guy (me), in camo shorts, tac boots and a black t-shirt walks in to my doctor' office, who I've been seeing for 10 years, and they all, all of them people here by our good graces, stare at me like I don't belong there, I'm an unwelcome intruder, and are overtly hostile in any way they can manage! It had gotten so bad that if I hadn't moved I would have had to find a new doc anyway. I feel horrible for him as there is no escape. Until he retires that is his lot! There is no way that is right or justifiable but that is the way it is! Obviously this is a completely unjust/unfair system and that is precisely why the govt won't allow any changes because docs would be all "screw you govt, lol I'm on my own now" The govt is perpetually whining about the fact that they can't get doctors for areas like Labrador, NWT and Nunavit. Yet they offer no incentive to docs to basically give up their lives and move to the middle of nowhere. If a doc has a family, you think their spouse and kids want to move to the middle of buttF nowhere just because the govt says it would be the nice thing to do lol. Who in their right mind would do that? So as is usually the case, our govts have made a mess of this and I doubt there is any fixing it. It will just continue to get worse.

About a year and a half ago I was put on to this site Muscle-Gear when I was looking to buy locally some Modafinil. I hadn't set up my mail drop in the USA yet and no one would ship to Canada. Anyway, the process seemed sketch at the time, maybe less so now but paid by money order sent electronically to The Ukraine I believe it was. Somewhere in that area anyway. I received the Modafinil promptly and it was retail box, that I think is source from India/Pakistan where you can buy it OTC. They also sell all manner of Anabolics/Gear/etc and I have heard chatter on both sides of it saying legit and scammers. The reason I'm asking about it is after reading some of the controversial info about Terragen stuff I remembered these guys list it for sale. Now the prods look like pic below. I remember people talking about it not being authentic etc. They are based out of and ship out of Ontario. Anyone know anything about them? I have no need to do any further business with them just curious.

Well lets just say that a 6' tall raven haired Scandinavian goddess, with the purest alabaster skin I have ever seen, entwined in a tantric pretzel with her 5" tall, sub 100lb, soft mocha skinned Viet g/f, was a spectacle on its own, and just watching was literally hypnotic. The fact that I was able to jump in and add my manly self to the image, lol...well I think Otto Rudolf Schatz would have drawn it given the chance lolololol

Thanks for the info brother, much appreciated. I really wish I wasn't doing this on my own but having folks offer so much helpful info is a really big deal. Back when I was first looking at all of this I made a conscious note to myself regarding the need to screen/filter everything I read. heard etc as it was obvious there was a lot of "bro science" in play that ended up being really conflicting so classifying the sources according to a reasonable scale of veracity/reliability became a must in order to not make more mistakes than a noob like myself was likely prone to make anyway. Finding this forum was perhaps the single biggest positive event during the early part of this journey, especially given the level of quality info available here but more important the level of camaraderie and just the flat out helpful nature of so many of the folks I have met. I can honestly say that one of my worries was that I would be sen as a "tourist" or "joy rider" because of my not being into lifting or body building or anything like that. The was the single largest motivating force behind my sharing as much of my personal story as I have so that folks would see that despite my having a different situation from a lot of people, I was no less sincerely invested in the process, doing it right, learning how to do that from the right people, etc. Having the benefit of hindsight, I don't have to guess at the results/impact of not getting my situation under control but never having gone as long as I had this time without TRT, and the portion of the slow degradation/downhill grind of my health, that this was responsible for, I didn't realize how long, and to what extent, things had been more seriously messed up than even I realized. It's that whole pot/frog/boiling water thing right. Over the last 10-11 years I always had my script for Androgel ready to go or refills waiting at my pharmacy so there was never any delay once I felt the barest inkling that things were sliding to far down into the wrong place again. If I had, at that time, a doc that was more knowledgeable about all of this in addition to his being very co-operative in helping, I would have been doing things much differently, but at least he didn't deny me treatment like my current doc has. I've never been one for experimentation just for the sake of it, (well there was this time with this Scandinavian goddess and her Vietnamese BFF g/f but that's a whole other story lol) or the type to just throw caution to the wind and I've always been an "over-researcher", or "over thinker" so I can assure everyone/anyone that I may be conversing with at any time that I not only read and evaluate every aspect of this, especially the safety protocols/factors, but that if at any time someone sees me messing up I welcome being told that I am doing so and welcome being told because the person speaking up actually gives a shit about my inexperience not causing me harm. Maybe some day I will be able to snatch the pebble from the master's hand. Until then I am just a humble student.

Understood. Thank-you. And this is why my plan was from start to bloodwork in August to evaluate where I am at. The big difference between myself and someone not in my position is that I have both an illness and a medication working in the opposite direction constantly so I have to overcome that and get my levels up which is why I started a little heavy knowing that when the bloodwork came back in August i could adjust accordingly. Also, for me, my levels at start were really low sub 300 total and for me that's barely above where I was at a point and really really sick as a result so there was an urgency to getting my levels up again. I weighed the likelihood of that dose causing an issue over that time period vs the need to get fast results and that's how I got there.

I hafta say I'm a little confused about why everyone seems hung up on TRT vs Cycle. If you're not into body building or power lifting for example, and not doing it out of just vanity like some people I have spoken to (nothing at all against that just offering it up as one of the motivating factors) and you're in the boat I am where my health issues not only are quite clearly documented to be associated with low T levels and one of the meds I have to take , again is studied and known to drive down T levels with long term use ( I don't have the option of not taking this med, Period. I simply do not) and all you are trying to do is improve your health to the point where your quality of life isn't suffering, I'm really not sure what difference calling ti TRT or Cycle makes. The only difference I could see is perhaps TRT is ongoing and Cycle is, well Cyclic. Admittedly I've crammed because of the circumstances but nowhere did I see that 300mg/week would cause me any issue between now and August when I get the labs done. I also know where my levels were from my recent bloodwork and I know if they went any lower how sick I would be as it has happened. So I am combating an illness and a medication both working against me and again very new to this but having no other choice but to go it alone, and did put in a huge amount of time with research and asking questions and reading till my head hurt here. So maybe someone can fill me in on the part I'm confused about or where I've gone wrong at this point as I have been quite open about being here to learn from you folks.

The goal is to get my levels up as quickly as possible. Next labs are in august, Based on those then I can adjust. I guess maybe some folks have missed this but for me this isn't a vanity or performance thing, its a matter of health and getting my levels back up quickly, after having my new doc turn me down for TRT even after seeing my file/past treatment, and being at least Feb from an endo referral I was in a spot where I needed to take care of this myself. It was left too long because of the situation with my new doc and me waiting to see if I could manage some other option. So start, labs in 2 months and adjust.

Yes, self prescribed but not by choice and not on a whim. I detailed this in another post somewhere here.Suffice it to say it is a necessity not a vanity or performance thing and with an endo referal at least February away I didnt have any choice but to do this myself. I wanted to do HCG not Clomid to be honest but it wasn't in the budget. It will be just not quite yet. I'd be very interested to have you go into more detail as from what I have been able to find out on my own, it seems that Clomid is used fairly often in this fashion. But as I have said many times, this is all very new to me so I'm still learning and if I have made an error I am all ears to hear about it. Would rather hear about it and correct it than not right. and btw, I did mention, in the post that you quoted, that I'm having my next bloodwork in August. @Rosconow

Oh boy, man do I hear that. Thankfully, I've got great self control and not the type of problematic personality as well. If not, 11 years on the kind of pain meds I have to take daily, unfortunately, would not be the "non event" that it is as just part of my daily routine!

Oh, and I think I mentioned somewhere previously that I had just received a box of prezzies from Pink Cherry that I ordered for the wife so the timing couldn't be better lol

I'm not quite there yet but I have had a couple surprises out of nowhere that as luck would have it the wife was there for 1 and the other she was home shortly after so despite me being a "hands on" type of guy and never wanting to leave to others what i can take care of myself, bwahahahahah, I waited and let her have at it hehehehehe

My initial plan was to go 200mg/week. The big shot at the front was the plan just because between what i had researched and heard and then was able to look at in a calc about the doses and how they would respond in body at certain levels, the big shot showed a better response for the over-all effect. I decided to bump to 300/week, well it's actually 7 shots over 2 weeks as its eod so .34/.35cc eod of the Test E 250, as between what I was reading here and on the web and considering that each mg of Test actually ends up yielding only somewhere in the 70 something % of that total dose in body (can't remember the exact % at the moment, it might have been 80 but for this response doesn't really matter exactly lol), I figured what the hey and just went for it. There didn't seem to be any real dangers going 300/week vs 200/week so just went ahead and thought we'll see what happens lol...

DUDE! So happy for you that you are feeling so good. Well done! It's been 10 days for me now on my 1st ever, aside from Androgel, which pales in comparison. The wife mentioned today that she can't believe the obvious difference in just my overall mental state, how I'm talking/behaving etc. I thought that was a bit quick so maybe placebo, but given I started on the 16th with a full cc of Test E 250 and that I decided to up my target from 200/week to 300/week and I'm doing it eod and I seem to have found good balance so far with 50mg of Clomid eod and .5mg Anastrozole same eod, and given that my levels were damned low for me, after some research I don't think I need to worry about this being placebo effect. the only thing I need to try is that I think the clomid is causing a bit of hot flashing or increased temp so I'm going to take a break from that for a week/couple of weeks and see what happens. I won't be getting labs again until end of august so just kinda have to guess at it a bit based on how I feel and everything I have learned from all of you amazing people! Anyway, full steam ahead, and I hope both of us do nothing but power forward feeling more and more like superheroes for the rest of our lives!

Take a look over on YT at Sam's Live Like a Viking channel. I'm not 100% positive but I think he had a vid about his experience in that area. Nerves do heal really slowly and often not at all. About 5 years ago I was "Forced" (ie do it or lose your pain meds) to undergo 2 epidurals and the butchers damaged nerves and were so cavalier about it saying "Oh no biggie, the sensation will return to normal in your feet and that area of your back that now has no sensation". I at least was able to put enuf gap into the process before a 3rd to point out pretty definitively that they hadn't at all helped and avoid getting damaged even further. 5 years later nope not even a bit of the sensation that I lost has returned, and I doubt it ever will, at this point unless I can see positive results as you are looking for. When the money is there and the list of things ahead in priority for me are covered I'll have a go at it. Best of luck, man!