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Since I haven’t updated this with many photos lately, I thought I’d include this one - it was about 1.5 months post show, probably my favorite look so far. Lean and full... and maintainable lol I don’t tend to take too many photos in the offseason.

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A few years go I was looking for a new lab to try while my go to lab was down . Was a little leary about BT after reading stuff on another board. But gave them a shot and don't regret it at all. GTG.

hoolayy ol fiddlin fuck! wait for the next 3-6 days...should drop another 3-5lb of water retention the body holds for cooling.... obviously you did it well.. shredzs

Last day for my final dose of BT DNP and im already looking forward to my next cycle of it...160 today wow cant believe how much i have dropped...

Pretty awesome right? Reliable for years. Quick service. Game changer! ?

Here is a topic that although effects all of us, we hardly, if ever discuss. It is something to be well aware of prior to going down the rabbit hole of gear use. Most women I have come across to have serious mental health issues only made it worse when taking higher doses of certain AAS. Sadly, because there is not much information out there for women and steroid use that improper dosing generally ends up happening, and that is where problems will start to arise. Mind you, everybody is chemically different so just because Suzy was okay to take 20mg Anavar doesnt mean Polly will react the same. And trying to put boundaries onto what makes a proper dosage is kind of silly when you think about it. We can have general bench marks, but dosing for YOU and how you react is the utmost importance. So what does this have to do with mental health? Get to the point right? Some women it will greatly depend on, and things to consider would be; 1. What their mental health concern is (bipolar, anxiety, depression, etc) 2. What type of AAS is she using and why? 3. What are her goals? Long term goals 4. What is her mental health past 5. Have you taken any birth control or forms of hormones since puberty onwards? 6. Have you had any recent bad episodes/changes to behaviour I have always used the analogy for women (and for men, really) let's say "if you were an asshole before starting gear, guess what? You are going to be a huge asshole on", it doesn't so much change your personality but it CAN make your personality come out greater. So if you already have depression? Well, depending on what you are taking, and how much,... it can make your depression worse. CAN. And that is all based on a person to person trial. Only you will know if your behaviour is changing (or those around you), if your reaction or behaviours are getting worse and worse you need to consider what and how much you are taking. Anadrol ladies? Just don't. Not a great idea. The stronger the steroid and male hormone can really do some crazy bad side effects for women. And this is coming from an experienced user. The best method if you are suffering from mental health issues is to constantly evaluate your mental well being. Use the taper on method for any steroid, using the smallest amount possible for the desired result. When it comes to dosing, please feel free to look around the forum we have each AAS for women specifically with women talking about their cycles and what works for them. The best is t always start low, monitor your mental health and be aware! Please feel free to share your experiences, thoughts, questions. We are all here to HELP one another! *msclmama

Hey there guys, A few days ago I placed my first BT order. They threw in two of their new products and asked me to write a log/ review of it for them. I'm in the last 4 weeks of my current cutting cycle. I'm not planning on stepping on stage. My goal is to get lean and ripped as fuck by my birthday October 31st. Actually for the 27th when I am hosting my 50th masquerade party. My stats are: 5'4 - 155lbs BF I'd say is around 15%. I've dropped 20 lbs of fat since February (I was 178lbs) Now just dialing it in for the last few weeks. I've been on a keto diet for the past few weeks with my wife. I'm eating about 1-1.5g of protein per lean body weight. I'm not counting calories as most of my food is meat and vegetables. No breads, sugars, rice, pasta, or anything. So far my cycle has looked like this: Test E 250mg/wk - wk 1-8 Mast E 400/wk - wk1-8 Tren A 100mg eod- wk 5-12 Winstrol 50mg pwo - wk 1-4 Anavar 50mg pwo - wk 5-8 Clen 100mg ed 2wks on 1 wk off T3 50mg ed -1-8 Now that I'm in my last 4 weeks and the new BT products on hand I'll be switching to BT from all other labs from here on out. My cycle is going to look like this as of today: TNT450 - 1cc/wk Tren A 100mg eod Replacing Mast with Stanolone - 60mg pwo Madol - 20 to 30mg pwo I also picked up some DNP and will be replacing the Clen with that when I get a proper micro scale that I ordered from Amazon. Exact dosage I haven't decided whether it'll be 100mg or 200mg ed. Sould be here by Thursday. Workout wise I started this cycle doing splits of Chest/tri's, Back/bi's, shoulders, legs. Now I've been doing full body workouts for the past 4 weeks with cardio on non workout days. For the first month I chose a lagging body part and worked them every day. It's a Christian Thibaudea program I found on T-nation. So last month was arms. This month is shoulders. it's a 10 set routine that you do everyday. I even do them on cardio days. it looks like this: Set 1 - Warmup (15-20reps) Set 2 - Use weight you can lift for 10 reps but do 6 reps Sets 3-6- As heavy as you can lift with perfect form for 3 reps Sets7-9 As heavy as you can lift, fuck the form for 3 reps. Set 10 - Use half the weight you used for sets 7-9 until failure. This little program works great. Originally it was just for arms, but I figure it's useful for any body part aside from maybe legs. So I was out of the gym for most of last wqeek because of my crazy work schedule. I worked anywhere from 12-18 hrs everyday from Monday to Saturday. By yesterday I could barely get out of bed. But I had an engagement my wife and I were hosting ar Woodbine Racetrack so I didn't have a choice! That being said, I was back in the gym this morning after pinning the TNT, and dropping 20mg of Madol, and 40mg of DHT and 100mg of Clen. I was planning a lightworkout to ease myself back after a week off. it looked like this: leg extensions 100x15, 150x10, 180x10 One arm machine chest press(cross body) - 100x15, 120x10, 150x10 Wide grip lat pulldown - 100x15, 130x10, 150x10 Machine Side Laterals - 50x20, 80x6, 100x3 4sets, 120x3 3 sets, 60x20 Leverage preacher curl - 50x20, 80x10, 100x10 Incline EZbar triceps extensions - 50x15, 80x12, 80x12 Seated calf raise - 150x12 3 sets I was super fucking tired as I am still adjusting to getting back to my regular schedule. I was up at 4:30 and off to the gym by 5 and on the gym floor by 5:40. I felt good and ready to go as being in the gym always gets my juices flowing. I was surprised how effortless it felt moving the weight. I could've easily lifted more but didn't want to over do it, or crush my CNS for the remainder of the day. I don't like to make knee jerk prognoses after one dose of a product. But I could definitely feel it as my body was buzzing this morning and that was unusual. With most AAS I don't "feel" anything besides the odd tren cough every now and then or pip. As I said, I was impressed with strength to spare this morning. I didn't expect that. And if it's any indication, the end of this cycle is going to be good for sure. Side note, At the racetrack yesterday I ate a plethora of carbs for the first time in weeks. When I was hitting the showers after my workout the vascularity was insane down my arms and though my shoulders. My muscles look full and dense. Exactly what you want to look like on tren and taking other drier compounds. I do believe the Madol and DHT had something to do with it as well. Looked good, felt good. Tomorrow will be cardio and I'll do a 10 set shoulder routine of some sort. I usually decide when I get to the gym. But I alternate between a lateral, a press, a shrug, a row, and some rear delt exercise to hit all the parts of the shoulders. Just one exercie... 10 reps. I'll post that up tomorrow. Well here we are. Wish me luck. I'll post some pics tonight when I get home. I'm really excited about logging these 2 products (madol and DHT). They sound really interesting. If all goes as planned they'll likely be a regular staple in my cycles going forward. Thanks again to BT for the extra goodies and the opportunity to share my experiences of them with the board. Service and delivery were top notch. I'm looking forward to reaching the finish line of my cycle with BT running through my veins!

Hello all, Just wanted to make a quick post which is relevant to all who suffer from sleep apnea but specifically those who use anabolics and/or those on TRT/HRT. It is common knowledge that most who supplement with testosterone and other andorgens can experience an increase in RBC (red blood cell count). While this does have a performance enhancing effect, at some point it is diminishing returns and actually damaging to cardiovascular systems. When RBC gets out of range most have a phlebotomy where blood is drawn, either by doctor recommendation or they donate blood if eligible. This will address issue temporarily however is not resolving what could potentially be causing the issue. After seeing a sleep specialist I discovered most people with sleep apnea have high RBC values due to the lack of oxygen. The body realizes that you arent breathing enough and over time increases red blood cell count. This is especially important for those on hormones that are also increasing red blood cells as well. My suggestion is to get yourself tested, test are free and easy (slightly uncomfortable as you wear it at night). Once diagnosed you can start the treatment with a CPAP machine. These machines are not cheap however I have found a very cheap supplier of these machines online and order one for myself. https://papsmart.com/ They do require a script but you can google a local sleep clinic, they can give you the sleep apnea test machine and send it home. You return to them typically after two days of use then they send off results to respirologist who sends them back a script, easy and painless! This will work for all extended medical that offers coverage on these machines. I recommend the "resmed airsense 10 autoset". I ended up paying 750$ total with shipping included, received in 2 days of sending them my script. The sleep clinic wanted to charge me 2500$ for the same machine I then had to pay the sleep clinic 200$ to do all the settings but if one were so inclined they could access the many videos on youtube on how to set up yourself. Hope this helps anyone who suffers, I think a lot of people do and just go undiagnosed or at least I did! So please check into symptoms, especially if you are on medication that increases RBC! https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sleep-apnea/symptoms-causes/syc-20377631 Please feel free to PM if you have any questions. Or comment below if you can add anything helpful on the matter ?

How many here have competed before? Or are looking to compete in the future? Im curious as I constantly see the numbers of certain class’ jump, must be a few out there looking to get their feet wet! myself, I’ve been competing for about 7 years

muddrr fucker..lol....i got a shit ton of work to do!

Noted!

Thanks brother! Nice! I may see you there - pretty excited to see how a PQ show is run, it'll be a new experience thats for sure. So a little update, training has been very solid the last few days. Food has been meh on this past weekend, my wife and I decided to replace our front stairs and build a deck... so I think I ate only about 4 or 5 times over the weekend lol oh well back to it this week. Also, I've noticed a slight weight decrease but I'm sure its almost all water retention as the gear dose (test especially) was cut in half from our previous cycle. All in all, my minds in a good place. Just going to keep pounding away!

Wow what an amazing difference. Great job! I love dnp, its magic lol.

Looking freaking awesome hun!

Thankyou shredzs the shit works alright

Thanks guys! Looking forward to the great info alot of you guys give out here!

Hey guys, a little late joining the board but I've been aware of it ever since the shutdown of NM. I first joined CJM in 2012 when I finishing up university which was my first taste of the online community. I haven't been overly active recently but I always like to browse the forums and chime in when i feel i can contribute.

As my body is dropping fat to a suitable level and I can now truly see my progress, I've contemplated competing. maybe just at least once for the experience of it. It's mentally difficult. i have an unhealthy relationship with carbs after long periods of dieting. But it's something I'm considering doing.. at least once. We'll see.

hitting pr's while in a caloric deficit speaks volumes

The 7-day DNP fat loss plan:The 7-day DNP fat loss plan involves a moderate to high dosage of DNP for fat burning. The DNP fat loss plan involves a 7-day on, 7-day off approach with four distinct phases. Most athletes using DNP follow this type of cycle. The phases are as follows: Phase 1: The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase.Phase 2: The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase.Phase 3: The 14-day DNP Phase.Phase 4: The 2-day Post-DNP Phase.Phase 1. The 3-day Carb-depletion phasePhase One has a three-day duration and begins the four days preceding the ingestion of DNP. The purpose of this phase is to deplete muscle-glycogen content by restricting carbohydrates. This is achieved through a Ketogenic style diet.Kcals should be restricted to 10-12 times bodyweight in lbs. And carbohydrates should be restricted to less than 60g/day. Protein is consumed at 1 gram per pound of bodyweight or higher and the remaining dietary calories should come from fat.This phase lasts exactly 3 days, and will reduce muscle-glycogen levels so that the body is forced to rely on fat as fuel more readily when you start your DNP cycle.Phase 2 The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization PhaseThis is a new concept for DNP dieting. During the past three days, the athlete has restricted carbohydrates and as a direct consequence T4-T3 conversion is slowed down resulting in reduced T3 levels. This is bad for the DNP phase, as you need enough active T3 to last throughout the entire 7-day on DNP phase.Day four of the DNP cycle involves a mega-carbohydrate meal at mid-afternoon (4-6PM) designed to create a massive insulin spike and re-normalize T4-T3. This concept has been extrapolated from ketogenic diets and has been shown to dramatically increase serum concentrations of T3.Day 4 involves Keto eating until the Mega-carb meal. Then in the late afternoon, at least circa 250g of carbohydrates must be consumed to create an insulin spike. Any sugar (fructose, sucrose, maltose etc.) is fair game. Fructose in particular is good because it primarily re-fills liver glycogen which is directly involved in T4-T3 conversion. (Empty liver glycogen signals the thyroid to decrease T4-T3 conversion).As a side-note, a 250g carb-meal after three days of Keto dieting creates a more pronounced insulin spike than would a 250g carb-meal after three days of normal eating.Kcals during Phase 2 should be kept at 15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs can be calculated by the athlete. The only carb intake on day 4 should be the 250g carb-meal.Phase 3 The 14-Day DNP PhaseThe first two days of actual DNP consumption are the most important to follow correctly. During Days 1 and 2 of the actual DNP portion of the cycle, it must be determined if the athlete will have an allergic reaction to DNP.Day 1: 200 mg of DNP is ingestedDay 2: 200 mg of DNP is ingestedAt this point the dieter should be able to assess if an allergic reaction has occurred. A DNP-stimulated allergic reaction will lead to swelling in as little as 1 to 2 days time. Approximately 10% of athletes will have such a reaction. The unfortunate few who experience this type of a reaction must terminate the cycle immediately. Benadryl or Ketotifen (Anti-histamines) can be used to treat mild symptoms. Obviously a doctor should be consulted should the symptoms prove more severe.Day 3: Dieters making it to day 3 of the DNP phase have the option of increasing their dosage. The normal dosage for beginners is 400mg DNP/day. Even an amount this small should provide outstanding results. A word of caution. DO NOT TAKE MORE, if you are not experienced with DNP-use. More advanced users may chose to go higher based on past experience. The 400mg/day dosage is maintained from Day 3 through Day 9(Exactly 7 days). The last dose is taken on Day 9. Supplementation and Nutritional Protocol for a DNP cycle:1. An ECA stack is beneficial while on a DNP cycle as it as it acts as an anorectant. DNP raises Neuro-peptide Y levels in the brain, which is directly linked to increased hunger. Consuming 75-100mg total of ephedrine alkaloids/day should be sufficient to suppress appetite. PPA (Nor-ephedrine) should NOT be used as it causes lethargy when combined with DNP. 2. Anti-oxidants. Due to the DNP induced rapid combustion of fats, free-radical production skyrockets up-wards. To combat this, anti-oxidants must be used. Anti-oxidants are the single most important supplement to take on a DNP cycle.a) Fat-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin E: 1000mgs/day b) Water-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin ? 2-3g/dayc) Alpha Lipoic acid: 600-1000mgs/dayDual-anti-oxidant: BOTH fat & water-soluble actually re-cycles other anti-oxidants.3. Glycerol: Although optional, glycerol is often consumed at 15ml's 3X/day. Glycerol increases hydration for many athletes.No additional supplements are really required other than these three. All the rest you have read in various DNP articles are more for peace of mind than improved functionality. I consider them overkill.4. Water: Not a supplement, but an absolute necessity.DNP causes sweating and can be incredibly dehydrating. Dehydration is the NUMBER ONE cause of most DNP problems and deaths. Excessive dehydration results in over-heating. Dieters who do not replenish fluids properly while on a DNP cycle could die. The consensus among athletes is that at least two gallons of water must be consumed daily.5. EAT FRUIT while on your DNP cycle.Fruit for some reason has been found to greatly reduce the lethargy associated with a DNP cycle. It also has a high water content, therefore it helps to keep the dieter hydrated. Watermelon is an obvious recommendation.6. Dietary intake: There are several schools of thought on this matter, but sticking to the old standard always works.Kcals should be kept anywhere from 10-15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs should be kept at around 20% fat, 30% protein and 50% carbs. (Changing the ratios in favor of more carbs and protein w/ less fat will result in a more fat loss but nothing special. Also, remember that more carbohydrates means more heat.) Take for example the 220 lb (100 kg) bodybuilder. He would consume anywhere from 2200 to 3300Kcal /day (Depending on his appetite control).WHAT NOT TO DO on a DNP cycle.a) Do not under any circumstances consume alcohol or ANY type of diuretic while on a DNP cycle. Alcohol and diuretics will dehydrate you and can cause SERIOUS problems. b) Do not remain in a hot environment without replenishing fluid loss due to perspiration. This too can also cause SERIOUS problems. c) Do not begin with a high dosage of DNP if you are a novice. This is just asking for a trip to the ICU.The half-life of 2,4 Dinitrophenol is 36 hours. So, after 36 hours, there is only 50% of the DNP remaining in your system. Therefore, 72 hours later 25% remains. Then 12.5% remains after 108 hours. After 5 days (120 hours), there's roughly 9% of the DNP left in your body that you had on Day 9. This DNP concentration is low-enough to allow you to begin Phase 4 of the cycle -- the 2-day Post-DNP phase -- without compromising glycogen synthesis rates. Kcals during Days 10-14 should remain the same as during days 3-9.Phase 4: The 2 day Post DNP Phase.The whole purpose of this phase is to get muscle-glycogen levels back to normal. The Ketogenic carb-up can be used as a sort of template for this phase.After Phases two and three, muscle-glycogen levels are depressed and need to be replenished.Day 15: Carb-intake should be 7g/Kg of LBM (lean body mass = bodyweight minus body fat.) So assuming a 220 lb bodybuilder has 0% body fat, lol, he would consume 700 g of Carbs. Protein-intake remains at 1g/lb and fat is restricted as low as possible.The focus on day 1 should be on High-GI foods like Fat-free Ice-cream and all the other non-fat high sugar desserts. Calories should be around 4000 for the 220-lb bodybuilder -- in other words, 18X bodyweight in lbs.Drastically restricting fat is CRITICAL here, as the body is still burning fat for fuel as you replenish your glycogen stores. In essence, the dieter is still losing fat while carbing up.Day 16: Muscle-glycogen has increased, so carb-intake should be decreased from day one’s 7g/Kg to only 5g/Kg of LBM. That would be 500g for our 220-lb bodybuilder. Protein is 1g/lb again. Fat remains as low as possible. Kcals for the dieter are reduced to 3000 Kcal range, or around 14X Bodyweight in lbs. The focus of Day 2 should be low-GI foods like vegetables, milk, lean meats etc.Additional Precautions:Dieters feeling extremely nauseated or who vomit during a cycle should discontinue use immediately and not restart for at least 36 hours. Dieters should carry a pocket thermometer at all times. If body temperature rises above 102 Fahrenheit then the dosage should be lowered or the cycles should be terminated. Additionally, the dieter should take a very cold bath to lower the temperature. In addition to water, V8 juice should be consumed. Drinking gallons of water depletes the body of electrolytes pretty badly predisposing the dieter to shock, nausea, lethargy, and even death. V8 is the best for replenishing electrolytes as it contains 950mg of potassium per 8oz compared to Gatorade’s 35mg of potassium in 8oz. Massive amounts of fruits and sweets should be consumed if one becomes nauseated or vomits – i.e. force feed yourself. Dieters should never allow themselves to become overheated on a DNP cycle. Always stay next to a fan and keep the air conditioner on. Do not attempt a DNP cycle if you work out doors in a warm climate or another warm environment like a kitchen. Even at low doses this can build up and be potentially dangerous. There are two versions of DNP – regular and crystalline. Know which one you are taking. When taking the crystalline DNP caps, never take more than 200mg at once if you've never used it before. Even if you are used to it, it is still much safer to spread the dosage throughout the day. Crystalline DNP is much faster acting and can rapidly elevate temperature.Post-Steroid Cycle Use of DNPOne of the primary causes of muscle breakdown after a steroid cycle is suppressed TSH. Anabolic steroids suppress TSH, which in turn lowers T3 and T4 production by the thyroid gland. The reduction in TSH is one reason that anabolic steroids are such excellent muscle builders.Soon after the completion of a steroid cycle, TSH up-regulates, which in turn super-stimulates the thyroid. This excess stimulation causes the thyroid to produce above normal levels of T3 and T4. This increase in thyroid hormones is highly catabolic and is the main reason why people lose muscle post-cycle.Athletes have learned that they need to restrict T3 production post cycle to prevent muscle loss. A novel approach to achieving this goal is the use of DNP. About 80% of the body’s endogenous T3 is produced from the metabolically inactive T4 to the metabolically active T3. The de-iodinase enzyme is responsible for this conversion. It literally cleaves off an iodine molecule.By ingesting 200mg DNP/day, the athlete can correct the over stimulated Thyroid, returning T3 levels back to normal. DNP directly blocks the production of T3 from T4 via the de-iodinase enzyme.As a bonus, the reduction in your ATP stores because of the DNP is counter acted by an increase in the oxidation of triglycerides as an energy source. The benefit is the elimination of any potential fat-gain from the low post-cycle testosterone levels. And as DNP is non-hormonal, it has no effect on HPTA recovery.After cessation of DNP use post-cycle, the athlete will reap the benefits of the "Anabolic Rebound Effect" which further lends credence to the use of DNP as a post-cycle ancillary for the elimination of any post-cycle muscular losses.Macro’s DNP Supplements200mg alpha lipoic acid 3x a day with meals 1200-1500mg magnesium in 2-3 divided doses. 2-3000mg vitamin C1200IU of vitamin E 200mcg of selenium. 1000-2000mg of calcium (can’t take it with the magnesium, though. Take it before bed) Melatonin if you can’t sleep and it is also one of the best and cheapest anti-oxidants. 50mg of zinc a day one iron tab as hemoglobin is a protein as well. A potassium gluconate tab or two a day Taurine at 3g a day. Glutamine at 15g-20g a day . 1 table spoon glycerol 3 x a day at least 2 gallons of water a fan to point at your head while sleeping- or at work- basically anytime you can point a fan at you 500mg grapeseed extract 300mg cranberry extract 600-900mg of green tea a good mulit vitaminEC+1g of tyrosine 3x per day and 20mg of yohimbine topically 2x per day- for added energy and fat burning effects

Quick quick shoutout to BT! Been using them for a while now and they are number one is customer service and quality! They always treat me very well! Nothing but good things to say!

I think that’s pretty much a given. Regardless of gear use - if diet and training aren’t on point the results will be lackluster. I think everyone should always prioritize nutrition and training over supplementation, but when supplementation comes into play... keep it simple for best results. Complicated or more isn’t always better

I made a small order of test e , tren e, and TNT 450 to test out their oils. Pinned 1ml of TNT and it was smooth without any pip! The rep is awesome to deal with and gets back to you in timely manner plus my package arrived in couple days.

Yep, I'd have to agree with Matt. The fastest delivery I've had to date.

Just a little video of me doing triceps with a 70lb dumbbell 20180925_234135_1.mp4

Running 600 mg ew eq 500 test e ew 75mg ed proviron 2 iu ed hgh

This was a shot from my last competition and my weight was around 211lbs. I'm hoping to improve quite a bit. I'll post a more current pic tonight!

Well last night i upped my DNP dose to 400mg and yep thats my sweet spot all right... Shredz you called it correct...im loving the results already and just took my first shot of the DNP propionate im 1 happy gal.....

Ok on day 6 of BT's DNP and feeling actually fine get a little hotter at night time and sweat more when i train but nothing extreme. I bumped my dose upto 300mg since i cap my own pills now. Trying to limit carb intake just to avoid the extreme heat you can get from the DNP.. so far so good and dropping weight...

yes carbs and sugar crank the fuckin heat.....im guessing your sweet spot will be 400....above that and it starts to negatively effect your day....basically need to be on vacation to run 600..lol....and have your house between 13-15 deg C...lol.....no joke....and change soaking wet tshits and pillow casses 2-3 times a night.. the positive....1lb plus a day burned.....must be careful and stay high in vitamins/electrolytes and WATER.....you will drop another 3-6lb water retention in the 4-7 days after stopping.....