New steroid laws for Jan 2020 in China

[NorthernLifters 303]

Lot of talk on PM about this and confirmed by a few sources/sponsors 

"There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law. 

If all factories closed, we will have no source to get raws. "

This would cause a major disruption and kill off many ugl. Stay tuned.. 

[MaskedMisery 33]

That's a hard one to digest.. Hopefully ugl's can find a way to stay in operation with the ban.. I'll be following on this..

[funlog 92]

Yikes! Time to stock up. Even if some do survive, I can see prices going up. Thanks for the update @NorthernLifters

[Corey5150 276]

41 minutes ago, NorthernLifters said:

Lot of talk on PM about this and confirmed by a few sources/sponsors 

"There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law. 

If all factories closed, we will have no source to get raws. "

This would cause a major disruption and kill off many ugl. Stay tuned.. 

I honestly doubt it will change much, I see higher prices for a while potentially - but I expect business will go back to normal.

If not, I'm sure other countries will pick up the slack

[BobTheOldLifter 94]

Yeah, where there's demand, there will be supply,  just a matter of price. 

[CapeBretonDadBod 283]

@NorthernLifters thanks brother , I was hearing this too , it’s kind of alarming.

[Ryujiin 25]

6 hours ago, NorthernLifters said:

"There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law."

That said, were there is money to be made, people will always find a work around. The number of things that are "banned" in the PRC but are still in operation is pretty silly.  Just less out in the open. Same as other countries. I do agree we will see some price increases though given the supplier that do stay open will have less competition and higher "expenses" with all the "greasing" they will be doing with local authorities. 

[Nissan 128]

7 hours ago, NorthernLifters said:

Lot of talk on PM about this and confirmed by a few sources/sponsors 

"There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law. 

If all factories closed, we will have no source to get raws. "

This would cause a major disruption and kill off many ugl. Stay tuned.. 

Ummm... India??!! 

[Ryujiin 25]

I would be curious to see what the new "banned" list will cover once it is released or if a draft is available. 

[Ryujiin 25]

Fresh off the press: 

2019 Banned Substance List.pdf

[Rosconow 191]

Translation? 

[Ryujiin 25]

6 minutes ago, Rosconow said:

Translation? 

Chem names are all in English and Chinese. 

The intro more or rest just states that its an update to existing policies. Whats a little odd as it states the implementation date as of Jan 1, 2019...so take that with a grain of salt.

Rough translation as:

 

State General Administration of Sports
Ministry of Commerce of the People's
National Health And Health Commission of the People's Republic of China
General Administration of Customs of the People'
State Drug Administration
Public notice Number 39
2019 Doping Catalog Announcement

According to UNESCO's "State against Doping in Sport" the relevant provisions of the Convention and the State Council's Anti-Doping Regulations, which will now be The doping catalog is published as follows.

Relevant departments shall, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Anti-Doping Regulations of the State Council, Production, sale, import and export of substances listed in the 2019 doping catalog, and Supervision and administration of anti-doping. Protein assimilation agents and peptide hormones Import and export management in accordance with the "protein assimilation agents and peptide hormones import and export management office Law (State Food and Drug Administration General Administration General Administration General Administration Order of the General Administration of Sports no. 9) of the relevant provisions of the implementation.

This directory is different from previous years' catalogs, whichever is the basis for this directory.

This announcement will be implemented as of January 1, 2019.

General Bureau of Physical Education, Ministry of Commerce of the People's Republic of China
National Health and Health Commission of the People's Republic of China General Administration of Customs State Drug Administration
 

 

[Ryujiin 25]

Here the link for the press release for those who want to drop it into google translate: http://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1650655188269513998&wfr=spider&for=pc

[instagrande 34]

On 11/27/2019 at 2:35 PM, NorthernLifters said:

Lot of talk on PM about this and confirmed by a few sources/sponsors 

"There is new law in China, steroids will be banned 2020 and all factories will be closed according to the new law. 

If all factories closed, we will have no source to get raws. "

This would cause a major disruption and kill off many ugl. Stay tuned.. 

Shit gets banned in China ALL the time. Just look at the opioid crisis. It's illegal to make or sell opioids but there's companies that openly still do that and supply raws in the US and Canada. There's such a massive demand for steroids that it will keep continuing. The same people creating laws to ban shit in China are the same people that are in cahoots with the people making the shit. 

Chinese government is the most corrupt in the world. They're the biggest gangsters.

[Rosconow 191]

Probably will be the reason prices go up?

[BobTheOldLifter 94]

9 hours ago, instagrande said:

Shit gets banned in China ALL the time. Just look at the opioid crisis. It's illegal to make or sell opioids but there's companies that openly still do that and supply raws in the US and Canada. There's such a massive demand for steroids that it will keep continuing. The same people creating laws to ban shit in China are the same people that are in cahoots with the people making the shit. 

Chinese government is the most corrupt in the world. They're the biggest gangsters.

Yeah, I'm thinking a few more greased palms and it will be business as usual, maybe with moderate price increases. 

[Rosconow 191]

I contacted my overseas supplier and asked the question. The email responses start from the bottom and replies ascend the page. 

Edited December 3 by Rosconow

[BobTheOldLifter 94]

So....what I'm hearing is that if we're running low, you'll hook us all up.

[instagrande 34]

Hahaha. Looks like the small businesses that don't have government connections are being shut down and the one's who do get a "certificate" and are free to make and sell

[Guardian Dispensaries 35]

My understanding so far is that China has banned Cialis and Viagra for sure. I can not speak the rest. I will let you know when I know more. 

[Blitz 112]

I believe this is overhyped. China has agreed to crack down on illegal steroid producers in 2020, not to ban steroids. Believe it or not the vast majority of our raws come from legal suppliers in China. It's not hard at all in China to get approval to manufacture drugs in general let alone steroids for distribution. Illegal producers would be ones manufacturing patented drugs or doing it without a permit. None of our drugs are still under patent in NA and it's so easy to get a permit in China. I believe the patent issue is why they are cracking down specifically in Viagra, Cialis and Levitra.

Edited December 4 by Blitz

[Ryujiin 25]

As an FYI:

Me: "I just wanted to inquire if your business operation will continue as normal into the year 2020 with the rumours of tougher rules on distribution of product and raws?"

Melody: "Yes, we will!"

Only time will tell.