Frank.Castle

Welcome man!

Haha I remember them being everywhere, old man have em in the Ash tray in his truck, bunch in the tool box, some in the office always some in his pocket. I think Swiss was the brand of choice for him

Good article my old man was a power lifter from the 70’s-early 90’s swore by this In this day and age, liver tabs are a throwback. Liver tabs are definitely old school. In fact, I personally know of many top bodybuilding pros who use liver today. Liver aint glamorous, but it flat out works. Liver tabs. Man, these two words, probably more than any other, conjure up bodybuilding nutrition from the 60s and 70s. It does for me. Bodybuilders like Arnold Schwarzenneger, Frank Zane, Dave Draper, and Vince Gironda lived on them and let me tell ya, these guys knew something about bodybuilding. But in this day and age, liver tabs are a throwback. Liver tabs are definitely old school. But what's old school doesn't have to mean obsolete�anyone here at Animalpak.com can tell you that. Liver is flat out not obsolete. In fact, I personally know of many top bodybuilding pros who use liver today. Liver ain't glamorous, but it flat out works. Why Liver Tabs? Back in the old days, liver was considered by many lifters to be a panacea. Bodybuilders thought it could do everything. Truth is, it can't. Nothing can. Not only that, desiccated liver is no "miracle" supplement that's gonna add 25 or 50 pounds to your bench press overnight. So for all you guys out there looking for the next "big" thing, this ain't it. But if you're looking for a solid nutritional supplement, one that should be part of your core nutritional arsenal along with protein and Animal Pak, this is it. In my honest opinion, liver tabs are a must. Now a lot of so-called "experts" today think desiccated liver tabs are bullshit. They'll point to a lack of a significant body of research. They'll point out it's been around for a long, long time. They say there are more inexpensive ways to get protein. Well these things are true. Even so, it don 't mean liver is worthless. Far from it. Those critics who bring these charges, guess what? These are the same guys who've never used liver before, cuz if they did, they'd be singing a different tune. Truth is, the vast majority of bodybuilding supplements have little or no science behind them at all. Period. The supplement industry is built on the myth of science, not science itself. Don't get me wrong. Supplements and our knowledge of nutrition have come a long, long way in thirty years. Even so, in the supplement industry, it's more about fiction and hype, not truth and science. Fact is, very precious few supplements have any legitimate clinical studies to support them. Protein. Aminos. Creatine. These are among the rare few that have been studied. Now this doesn't mean that all supplements today are worthless. Many are good, but many don't have studies behind them. The point is, just because there isn't a lot of science don't mean something doesn't work. And just because something's been around a while doesn't mean it's worthless. If you're selling shit, then it ain't gonna sell for long. On the other hand, if something's been around for thirty or so years, you gotta ask yourself why. Maybe cuz it actually works? Consider Atkins as a case in point. He first presented his ideas in the 1970s and his ideas never caught on. He was ridiculed by the medical establishment. Today, his theories are gaining ground. Studies are even beginning to show his diet works. Bodybuilders, of course, have been following a ketogenic diet for decades, but the point is, sometimes it takes a while for everyone else to catch up. Bottom line, who you gonna trust? You gonna put your faith in some skinny-assed marketing guys who tout their supplements as being "scientifically" or "clinically" proven to help you build muscle 4000% faster? Or you gonna trust thousands upon thousands of real lifters who have used a supplement for years and years with success? It's your call. I know what mine is. So what's so good about liver? For starters, many have called liver the most perfect food. It's rich in amino acids, vitamins, minerals, nucleic acids, lipotropics, antioxidants, cytochrome P450 (an enzyme involved in steroid production and detoxification), and other important nutrients. Liver has been used by bodybuilders and powerlifters for decades to increase strength, enhance appetites, reduce recovery times and fatigue, support liver function, and detoxify the body. It's also an effective blood builder. Liver helps increase red blood cell count. Plus, it's one of the best sources of heme iron. Desiccated liver contain heme iron, one of the most bioavailable forms around. Synthetic or elemental iron can lead to overdosing. Overdosing is far less likely with natural iron. With non-heme iron, you might expect an absorption rate of 1-3%. With heme iron, you could expect 35% absorption or more. Liver tabs can also exert "hematinic activity" � the ability of a substance to improve the quality of the blood, including the hemoglobin level and the number of erythrocytes. That's why liver has been called a "blood builder". All this is important because blood is what delivers oxygen and nutrients to your working muscles. If you got a problem with iron and blood, it can all lead to to fatigue, decreased energy levels, and reduced physical performance. Studies have clearly shown that even slight iron-deficiency can lead to a reduced work capacity. Liver also contains nucleic acids. For years, people thought the body could make enough nucleic acids via de novo nucleotide synthetic pathways. Under certain circumstances, this ain't the case. There are times when the body needs more: when the body is undergoing rapid growth, limited food supply, and metabolic stress. How Can Liver Help You? In other words, when you're training hard to either gain mass or shed fat. Under these tough conditions, metabolic demand exceeds the capacity of de novo synthesis and nucleic acids become conditionally essential nutrients. This is one of the reasons that liver can have a real effect on improving recovery rates. Liver is one of the best sources of B vitamins in food. For the athlete, B vitamins are among the most important of all the vitamins. B vitamins play a key role in energy production. If you are low here, your energy levels can suffer. This is bad news in the gym. B vitamins are also needed in carbohydrate metabolism, fat utilization, cell function, proper enzyme function, the regulation of blood sugar, antioxidant function, and detoxification reactions. The list goes on and on. So liver is important. But like I said earlier, it ain't no panacea. Liver will never replace good old protein powder. From an economical point of view, it can't and it shouldn't. It's easier and cheaper to take a scoop of protein powder than it is to gulp down a handful of liver tabs. So you don't take liver in place of protein. It's not either or. You can take both. Besides, you don't take liver for protein. You get it for aminos and other goodies. Liver tabs, in my opinion, should be a regular part of your supplement program. Now there are a couple of different liver products out there. If you're looking to try it out, choose a good one. Good liver tabs start with good liver: exclusively grass-fed, prized cattle from Argentina. These prized Argentinian cattle are raised without the use of steroids, hormones, pesticides or other such contaminants. So you get a liver that's healthy, clean and pure. You also gotta check to make sure the liver is certified BSE-free. Remember mad cow disease?

Don’t know the guy or the situation fully but on the surface of it all. Almost all infections if caught early and treated early can be resolved... hell we can fix flesh eating disease..

They’re great just make sure you take fiber of some kind if you’re taking a bunch. I remember making that mistake when I was young first lifting

My old man that used to be a power lifter used to use dedicated liver pills to help him out I don’t know they still exist

Yup quick to tweet fucking 50 million but hey vets FUCK YOU *cough* I mean you’re asking for more than we can give. On the note of the Christmas song... so BET will be banned now? Oh wait we can’t ban that wouldn’t be P.C of us. Leave me the fuck alone. When some one says happy holidays I respond with merry Christmas. We have to all be accepting of everyone else’s views but when it comes to views of our own it’s just wrong. Merry fucking Christmas holy shit where’s the Tylenol!

Now that’s a great sponsor supporting us as members not just interested in extracting every single penny possible! Thank you @GameChanger

If the importation is your concern why not purchase finished product supplied in Canada? You can get tabs not liquid so no taste. The extra bit of money to purchase domestic might be worth your while if you’re that concerned. To answer the question, as far as I know they are still considered research chemicals. So as long as they are for “research” you are ok.

Today was just a cardio day. Woke up at 2am for cardio with the wife then 3am hit the stationary bike for 45 minutes. Got a great sweat on. Feeling good today will be a lower calorie day as no heavy lifting. although I do eat some protein and carbs around 8:30pm to have some fuel for the morning work out. Usually some cottage chz and raspberries. tomorrow is going to be chest day feeling rested going to kill it tomorrow!

Doing great @millenium girl keep up the hard work! I’m happy you decided to do a log

I’m the only one at my gym when I go..... theses numbers are all wrong... when I go 100% of the time I’m hit on lol

You don’t owe it to anyone but yourself to get on track and push yourself. No one around you can do that for you. It has to be the drive the determination and the fuck everything else attitude that’s going to show you results. Gear isn’t magic. Bust your ass don’t lie to yourself and be accountable to yourself.

Count calories if you want I count macros... the way I look at it if you’re only counting calories those calories can come from garbage like a can of pop... when you do macros you actually see what you’re eating. Without proper training and a diet you’re better off pouring that test down the drain cuz it’s doing nothing for you in your body without the other two things. Not laying into you, but to me diet and training far out weigh any gear you can use by far.

I’ve actuakky used a slin pin with the new oil and it still goes through fucking amazing. I find more pain from sliding a slin pin in than from my 23 lol I’m weird tho

Ever had appetite loss from the drol before? Couple buddies of mine love it but have to force feed themselves because it destroys their appetite.

Alrighty so it’s been 6 injections so far with the new carrier oil and I have to say wow. Their older formula was great no problems through my 23g no pain at all you knew you injected but that was gone as the oil dissipated. With the new formula the next day it’s gone doesn’t even feel like it’s there. Have to say amazing job and keep up the great work!

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Brother, you seriously need to get on your diet and be getting to the gym. If you’re neglecting those two most important things, you won’t see the results you want. We’re trying to help you out brother, but it comes down to you being focused on your goals and sticking to a plan that’s going to get you there.

Welcome brother, always good to see new members here

I use it many different uses, never heard of this one. I put mine in a rock glass with some water and shoot it back. @Nissan no straw for me lol takes to long to get it in me. to avoid the problem of acidity on my teeth I usually rinse my mouth with just straight water.

Right on how’s the diet going? You should look at the ECA stack helped me a lot with appetite suppression. Super cheap too. What’s your training schedule look like?

I started my shoulder day with the cross body upright row lighter weight as a warm up and man nice pump right away felt great!

No the scientist have too much money thrown at them by rich retards that think it’s a great idea..... how long before you walk into Walmart and in the baby section there’s a kiosk so you can change your baby’s genetics to have blue eyes blonde hair and be super smart.... not that I think the technology is inherently dangerous because it could lead to medical advancements but in the wrong hands used incorrectly could have some serious consequences.